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[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 153 points 2 days ago (8 children)

If you're wondering, it's a cute idea but they clearly haven't actually done a sleep study. Being wired up to 19 sensors leaves little room for movement, let alone extracurricular activities.

Source: I had my second sleep study last week.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 48 points 1 day ago

19 sensors leaves little room for movement

A little movement is all I need.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I've never done a sleep study either but I can tell you right now I couldn't sleep under those conditions without a good wank first.

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I never understood the point of a sleep study. How is this highly artificial environment supposed to deliver helpful results? How are you supposed to sleep at all in this kind of environment?

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I did a sleep study that was done at home. They just sent a device I clipped on my index finger, strapped around my chest and put a small tube around my nose.

It's definitely still a little artificial, but it's at home with no one live monitoring you. As long as you get some sleep they can use stats and all the various data to get an idea of what's going on.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Hmm, it seems the patient has trouble sleeping with a device clipped on their index finger, strapped around their chest and a small tube around their nose. Prescribe xanax. Next patient."

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're being very uncharitable to people who have done this for most of their lives and likely are perfectly aware of the limitations

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You're being very touchy about a throwaway line on a shitpost community

[–] other_cat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wanted a home study so bad but my insurance veto'd it.

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[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it's about the few minutes when you do actually sleep, to determine if you have sleep apnea.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar 2 points 1 day ago

They only need to capture one sleep cycle anyways.

[–] cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they can still compare it to other people doing a study.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar 1 points 1 day ago

A sleep study is a diagnostic tool, not a research one. You have them when your doctor suspects sleep apnea and such.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

For sleep apnea for example which only happens when you are asleep they only need you to be asleep and then they monitor when it happens then adjust air pressure etc and see if that helps.

Their equipment is much more precise than for example CPAP machine, so they get more exact data.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 26 points 1 day ago

I like a challenge.

[–] NathanUp@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yea, sleep studies suck. You're in stuffy room tethered to a machine by a million wires everywhere from your knees up and covered in smelly glue and sticky pads. After a night of that, if you're lucky, you'll get to stay for the entire next day and try to force yourself to take naps every couple of hours.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're in stuffy room tethered to a machine by a million wires everywhere from your knees up and covered in smelly glue and sticky pads.

eeeehhhhahaha

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What happens if you need to get up to take a piss or shit or get a beer?

[–] NathanUp@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have to speak to the camera looming above your head, then they'll come and unplug you.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Is your life support they'd be unplugging?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The only life it's supporting has been called, "grotesquely disproportionate" and "massively disappointing". Leading women everywhere to ask, "is that it?" or "ya game is bigger, acorn!"

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

you just reach out and grab a bucket?

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 16 points 2 days ago (5 children)

My first study was in a sleep lab. It is as you describe. My second study last week was at home in my own bed. The experience was much the same.

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[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago

I had to have a couple EEGs as a kid. Similar situation, told to sleep with a bunch of sticky pads stuck to my head. Wasn’t too bad as I recall because they had me stay up extra late so I was already really tired and just conked out immediately

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I've had undiagnosed untreated sleep apnea for almost 20 years.

I need one badly. But there's no fkin way I can go to a Strange place full of strange people and go to sleep while wired up like the the Matrix.

Guess I'll just die.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I had basically the same thought. I don't sleep well now and I didn't then.

However, it turns out they don't need much data. The night they did my first sleep study, I woke up a number of times in the double digits in an amount of time that was so annoying to them that they gave up and sent me home early. They were still able to affect a diagnosis (and back it up with quantifiable data, lest you think them fakers). A full night of sleep is helpful to them to do things like verify your symptoms, but it seems not that much is needed.

Also, as others have said, you can do an at home study. I did one of those as well (later) and it was just a finger sensor (basically a pulse oximeter) and a sticky pad you put on your chest (which does kinda suck if you have chest hair but isn't unpleasant or cumbersome otherwise). I trust that test less, but in case you feel you have sleep apnea, it's less weird and just as likely to get you the equipment you need.

Lots of people describe their CPAP as life changing and I believe them. For me I wouldn't call it life changing in the traditional sense, but I would describe it as beneficial enough that I recommend one. Even if it were 100% psychosomatic, I would say it helps enough that it's improved my sleep. I recommend a test to you. Worst case scenario, it's one unpleasant night to find where you stand. Best case scenario, it really is life changing (and hopefully for the better)! If you have questions, while I'm in no way even remotely an expert, I have been through it and would be happy to answer any to the best of my knowledge.

Please take care of yourself if you can. Your health is worth it.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar 2 points 1 day ago

Just do it. Your sleep apnea is literally killing you. They only need to capture one sleep cycle to diagnose.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Talk to the specialist, my sleep study last week was done at home in my own bed. Went into hospital for an hour to get wired up, drove home and went to bed at my normal time.

[–] necromancyr@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Mine was just a finger sensor and a chest sensor I put on myself. Ended up having serious sleep apnea and now on a CPAP. Sleep is significantly improved. Just do it!

[–] PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My first sleep study was 3 hours, then they got scared and woke me up and sent me home.

Turns out I had very severe sleep apnea.

My second sleep test was a trial using CPAP, that lasted 2 hours before they swapped in a BiPap and a full face mask. Slept like a baby after that.

My wife has mild sleep apnea, her pressure is 6, my pressure is 22. It wasn't until I got an Auto BiPap, that adjusts between 20-25 that my sleep really got better.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can tinker with your settings too. There's a piece of software called sleepyhead that will display all of the stats from your unit's SD card, and you can get your settings dialed in using it.

I had to because my pressure would go up so high that it would cause my mask to leak and I had to wake up and restart the unit to get it to a normal pressure.

[–] PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago

When I had my S9 normal bipap I used to use Sleepyhead and also the official Resmed software that only the DME's had access to, to modify my settings. Once I had my machine I never went back for follow-up appointments, I managed things myself. When I got my new machine, I had my sleep doctor specify an Auto machine because I wanted to fiddle with things less. I knew what pressures worked best for me, but I wanted a machine that would increase the pressure if needed.

My pressure is already high enough that there's only a couple masks that I can clamp down to my face enough to go leak free. For the past 8 years I've used a Resmed Mirage Quattro and I keep a supply of new headgear handy for when I eventually wear them out.

Sucks I had to get to 40 before doctors figured out what was wrong with me. I've lost more weight this year then in my whole life combined including the year I got put on Ozempic. But still I have days where my AHI is through the roof. So many things are getting better for me health wise but I still have so many sleep issues.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] betahack@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Get outta here Weirdo!!!

[–] Metostopholes@midwest.social 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I did a sleep study once. Right before they had me go to sleep they said something like "Okay, we're going to turn off our monitoring and cameras, in case there"s anything you need to do. Just press this button to call us when you're ready."

I appreciated it, but I was still too weird a situation to jerk off.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They just wanted to get your jerk-off brainwaves.

[–] Metostopholes@midwest.social 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That reminds me of an extremely strange part of a movie, Brainstorm from 1983. The movie is about a device that attaches like an EEG and records (on tape!) all the sensory input the person is having, and can be played back for someone else to experience. One guy who's kind of a jerk records himself having sex then cuts out a loop of tape with just when he came. He is found by the other characters playing it back, having had something like an 8 hour long orgasm. Bizarrely, afterwards he was much nicer and wiser. This is how I remember it anyway. I might have to watch it again.

TL;DR A guy reaches enlightenment from sci-fi VR porn.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Imagine his level of clarity after 8h

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[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I regularly find myself too weird a situation, as well.

[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago
[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How else are you going to get accurate results?

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“I’m not even watching the weird stuff. Calm down.”

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[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s actually helpful though, it makes you exhausted and sleepy. The side effect though is that whenever you get sleepy, it becomes hard, and I’m struggling with it.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Struggling is the fun part ;D

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

It's the only way to know If I did it well.

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