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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 10 points 13 hours ago

And Congress knew and knows about others yet they think that they should still be the ones leading our representative government.

Why are these people living on the people ?

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The GOP is full of rapists, and it's nothing new.

[–] Worthess 0 points 10 hours ago

I think it's a perfect time to realize that there are perverts on both sides of the aisle, and neither aisle cares about their constituents.

[–] IDrawPoorly@lemm.ee 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So uh... why haven't "we" like... convicted and jailed him?

[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Trump...same. Elon...same.

Pretty much anyone at the very top of government now...same.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Hahaha you expect politicians to hold themselves accountable!? That would take things like integrity and honesty. You know honor, that thing the we just voted to kill forever.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, like, what the fuck? Don’t the rest of us go to jail if we do this?

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago

Well yeah but we're not born rich to the ruling class. Our fathers and grandfathers weren't Senators like Mattys were.

Rules for thee, not for me.

[–] roofTophopper@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

How could he possibly not? How could people look at him and think he wouldn't? The dude FUCKING looks like some sort of evil villain. That or a Dollar Tree Beavis.

I knew about this years ago. You knew about it. Our neighbors knew about. But still we gotta go through this wishy washy bullshit from those who are supposed to be leaders saying that this is all suddenly "coming to light". Fuck no it isn't.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So he is qualified. Only Rapists are allowed in.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Seriously, it wasn't even as lite as the titile makes it out to be.

"Gaetz did drugs while paying a child who hadnt even made it to her final year of high school while serving as a GOP representative and the GOP covered for him" would be more accurate

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 6 points 15 hours ago

"Matt Gaetz does Republican shit." would've been accurate.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

That finger gonna be wore down soon bubba

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Paragon of conservative virtues and former leading figure of elected government officials, everyone.

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 101 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Fixed: Matt Gaetz, former Trump AG pick, ha~~d sex with~~ raped an underage girl while in Congress, House Ethics report says

A minor cannot consent.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

har aped

Brutal.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In Florida a 17 year old can consent.

Matt Gaetz being older than 24 is the illegal part. He groomed a young girl.

Also, because he paid her, then the offense involves the procurement of a person who is under 18 years of age, so the charge increases to a second degree felony, which can result in up to 15 years of imprisonment, a fine of up to $10,000, or both.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it only costs $10,000 to do that then it's only illegal for poor people

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Welcome to America.

Where "Speeding fine" has totally opposite meanings depending on how rich you are.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

I like the Swiss and Finnish laws for speeders. The fine is based on your income.

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No she couldn't consent to anyone over 24, which he was. Also, I would have to play catch-up, but if this is one of the girls he flew to New Jersey to have sex with... It's sex trafficking a minor right?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think consent is the wrong word here. A 17 year old can consent to a subgroup of people (under 24). Therfore she is above the age of consent.

The girl has full control over her decisions but, more importantly, should not be charged with any crime.

Gaetz on the other hand ...

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Consent is tied to legality. You can consent to a credit card at 18 but not 17.

I can tell someone it's fine to punch me in the face, and you could call that consent. When the person next door sees it out the window and calls the police, they show up and will arrest them. Both parties say they approved of it and no one wants to press charges. Tough shit, if they follow the law they arrest the person, charges for assault are placed against the person who punched by the State it happened in.

The "victim" who thinks they consented can tell the state prosecutor they don't want there to be charges when they get a subpeno to show in court.

So did I ever actually give consent? No... I never had legal right to at any age.

(There are some loop holes in a few states, and ways to get out of it, but you get the point)

Note: This is a another huge example of how laws are broken and ignored by companies and people with money as well. An NFL contract may list that consent was placed to be hit during a tackle, but when a play is over and someone intentionally kicks someone in the ribs, slams someone's head down into the ground again or hits a player the league "fines them or suspends them" but they are criminal charges so they should be out in front of a judge. Why would they be exempt from the law.

Fun example: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CgjAN_wgmiI

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca -3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Nobody goes to jail if you don't press charges bucko. Nice try though.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

That's not how criminal law works, actually. In criminal courts the State brings charges regardless of the victims wishes.

Is there a c/confidentlyincorrect ?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

You have no idea how assault charges go. The charges are from the State, not a person. It isn't a civil case. (Also you could be in another country, so maybe it is different in your country)

Also a civil suit can be filed separately for restitution by the person. So you could have criminal and civil suits side by side

Note: most domestic violence charges in the U.S. the partner does NOT want charges to be placed.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I don't know about this case, I can definitely imagine him raping that girl.

But from a European perspective, saying minors cannot consent is definitely one of these very stupid US takes. It is honestly insane that in the US 18 is treated like a god, and if one partner is some months older, it's illegal.
Obviously, minors can generally be influenced more easily than older people, and it's important to have safeguards in place, but such a statement is just genuinely ridiculous.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s not the case in this scenario, and rarely is. It varies by state, but Romeo and Juliet laws are common, which cover these kinds of circumstances.

Basically, the law will set an acceptable age gap where consent can happen; If the gap is 5 years, then a 17 year old won’t be able to consent to sex with a 30 year old, but can with an 18-22 year old. So it helps maintain the “this is obviously a child who was groomed by a creepy middle-aged person” statutory rape laws, while still allowing kids to date each other.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

In some states they just straight up do the European thing where all that matters is being at least 16. In my state the age of consent is 16 and that's also the age where you can be tried as an adult. They recently voted on whether or not to raise the age, and they decided no.

There is still push for that to be changed, though only for the age of being tried as an adult. The former they're kinda keen on keeping where it is.

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