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alt text: a manipulated image portraying the alleged killer/controversial folk hero re-envisioned as a saintly figure, wearing Christian religious garb with a sun-like halo shining behind his head

Source: someone said this image hit the front page on reddit before being "censored".

Apparent credit: @gedogfx (IG). Title source: "Inkl". 💩posting for meme archival and commentary purposes.

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[–] Gustephan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I've never believed in god, but I think I can believe in saints now after Saint Luigi and Saint Javelin

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 25 points 3 days ago

on a personal level this is hella cringe but from a social perspective i love this so much

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 days ago

Merry Christmas Luigi!!!

🎄 🎁 🙏🏻

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 69 points 4 days ago (4 children)

It's almost going to be disappointing if we find out he was framed

[–] bigschnitz@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You mean that what appeared to be a meticulously planned and masterfully executed assassination, such that there was little to no usable camera footage wasn't likely to be undone the perp wandering around with a written confession and the murder weapon days later?

I'm shocked there haven't been more conspiracy theories on this.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago

It would be the worst kind of mindfuck for him if he was just some radical centrist tech bro who got framed of a crime, sanctified in the public opinion, and then proven to be innocent. Like that's the shit therapists' accountants dream of

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 25 points 4 days ago

Guilty or not, convicted or not... He is just a symbol either way.

This is about the corruption within US systems esp health insurance.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

You know, I feel like the thousands of people thirsting after him would be a pretty good ego boost at least. Enough to make up for the psychological torture of being framed? Probs not, buuuuuutttt...

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 145 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He was arrested for US healthcare's sins.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (4 children)

And on the third trial he was freed again.

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 160 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Pope Francis has the opportunity to do the funniest thing here

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 70 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I was ready to point out that this was not possible because canonisation requires the person have performed two miracles, but then I found out that there is actually a pathway without that:

Very rarely, a Pope may waive the requirement… if he, the Sacred College of Cardinals, and the Congregation for the Causes of Saints all agree that the Blessed lived a life of great merit proven by certain actions.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 47 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I'm not sure they can waive the requirement that a saint be dead however, it's sort of part of the definition...

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 84 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Print it out and put it in your wallet to ward against high insurance rates.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 31 points 4 days ago (4 children)

People are unironicaly going to use him in religion in the future.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If he is a catholic then I pray that he becomes a legit saint for what he did.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

He's more sainty than most christian saints. St Benedicts "miracle":

Book 2 of the Dialogues of Pope Gregory is about St. Benedict, and chapter 1 is titled “How he made a broken sieve whole and sound”:

It fell so out that his nurse borrowed of the neighbors a sieve to make clean wheat, which being left negligently on the table, by chance it was broken in two pieces, Whereupon she fell pitifully weeping, because she had borrowed it. The devout and religious youth Benedict, seeing his nurse so lamenting, moved with compassion, took away with him both the pieces of the sieve, and with tears fell to his prayers; and after he had done, rising up he found it so whole, that the place could not be seen where before it was broken.

https://blog.plover.com/religion/st-benedict.html#%3A%7E%3Atext=Book+2+of+the+Dialogues%2Cwhere+before+it+was+broken.

So Benedict fixed a collander by crying on it and earned sainthood for it. Clearly none of us is worthy to behold such holiness as that. You couldnt make this flaming garbage up if you tried.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

weird misinformation?

if you actually read any biography or even wikipedia article you will find a whole host of reasons including healing miracles, exorcisms, and completely non-miraculous things like founding monastaries and writings that also played a role in his sainthood.

so your citation, while true, is just drastically misleading by implying this colander thing was somehow the only reason the dude gets to be saint. in the end i even agree with your rhetorical goals, but there’s no need to lie to get there? i’m not even a theological scholar i just… know how to read wikipedia.

cc @the_crotch@sh.itjust.works

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is impressive I guess. Even if that's his only superpower, and yeah it is a lame super specific superpower, it's more than you or I can do and if I watched someone do it I'd be impressed because I did not believe it was possible

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

A good glue job takes skill, its true. Well ...ok. Sainthood.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Why not? Sainthood is an inherently political process. No person becomes a saint without intense lobbying and political pressure. You think Joan of Arc got her sainthood without politics involved?

And while the Catholic Church likes to claim a monopoly on sainthood, it really has no right to that claim. Most early saints were simply individuals that people in a community loved, respected, and later revered. A lot of these early saints were simply canonized officially by the church after they had already been venerated as saints by their communities for generations. There's one saint that is likely just a misremembering of the Buddha. So people could absolutely start venerating him as a saint unofficially whenever they want.

And in the long term, Luigi could even end up an official saint of the Church if the circumstances are right. After conviction and sentencing, he could meet with a priest and confess his crimes in full and formally ask for absolution. And in the doctrine of the Church, that would result in him being fully forgiven for his crime. It's the same way the Church recognizes the sanctity of warrior-saints who spent their whole lives killing. As long as they confessed their sins and asked for forgiveness from God, all is forgiven.

So let's imagine Luigi did that. Suddenly his sins are washed away. Now we just have a man who is effectively a martyr for the thousands of victims of Brian Thompson. If that doesn't a saint make, what does? Sainthood is meant for people who give their lives in the service of others, and that's exactly what Luigi ultimately did. If it weren't for the whole murder part, everyone would consider him a hero. And in the eyes of the church, confession washes away the sin of killing. Now he's an absolved martyr dying for the service others.

Now, for official recognition from the Church, there would need to be some miracles attributed to him after his (likely) execution. But that doesn't seem that hard to get. Tens of thousands of cancer patients praying for the ascended Luigi's intercession? Some of them are going to make a statistically unlikely complete recovery. Won't be hard to get the requisite number of miracles.

I don't imagine the Church would officially recognize Luigi's canonization within our lifetimes. But the Church thinks in centuries. If he decided to make a religious turn and really lean into Catholicism, he absolutely could end up saint, maybe in the 2100s sometime.

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[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are there any more images? This one looks pretty good, but the title promised me multiple images.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you download this image, then that's 2 images.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 56 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

Looks great. But it's a missed opportunity to not have this symbol on his chest:
https://clipart-library.com/img/808303.jpg

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[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unhinged and I am so here for it. Peace be with you.

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