Asklemmy

1. It's copying and not stealing, and honestly current copyright law is stupid and broken
2. Decreasing the profits of big corporations like Hollywood movie studios is not immoral and shouldn't be illegal
3. There are some shows or movies I can't find in my country legally
4. With increased competition in the streaming market, it costs as much as a cable subscription to get all the content I used to be able to get from one streaming service

I can afford to buy or subscribe to services but at this point streaming is just more annoying than pirating. With pirating I can use my favorite player (mpv), maximize video quality (high quality blu-ray rips), watch offline, no bugs or buffering, instant seeking et.c. As for games I might pirate a game before buying it but usually I just buy it since it's convenient (unless it has intrusive DRM).

I want the stuff so I get the stuff.

All companies are built upon unfathomable amounts of stolen surplus labor value, yet people only cry about a crime when you steal from the robber barons

Yo fucking ho, salty dogs

Sometimes I pirate media as a trial run. If a get a few chapters into a book or an hour or so into a game and decide I hate it then great, I didn't waste my money. The flip side of this is I have to be honest with myself and shell out when I feel I've gotten enough out of the media. The nice thing is that I get to draw that line for myself rather than some third party arbitrarily telling me how long my trial should last.

I would pirate even if it were stealing. In fact, if a company lost real money every time I pirated something, I would make an effort to pirate more often.

yes. don't need to justify it. if there's a game I want to play but I'm not sure that it's worth the price, I'll pirate it. same goes for movies or books or whatever. I don't even know how normies watch movies these days, I've never had a Netflix account.

have you ever noticed that you have felt that the value of a product has decreased just because you didn't pay for it, thus you are less interested to read it?

Nope.

Every company that owns media or copy protected information has one goal. To bleed consumers dry of as much money as possible. They lobby governments against our interests, track our data, and destroy the integrity of the product that they are selling to accomplish this.

For everything that I am interested in, I seek the best experience. I want the media I consume to be available, convenient, and unaltered. If I can pay a reasonable fee for that then I will. If not then I will seek other means. I am tired of corporations fighting to change culture and expectations to be "more profitable" rather than delivering a product that consumers actually want. I will continue to vote with my dollars (or lack there of) until this practice changes (which will likely be never).

I don't pirate, but generally, I don't pay for digital goods either. I'm mostly not a fan of how digital goods are tied to corporate platforms, which could disappear or make changes I don't enjoy. For some digital goods, you can fully download them and back them up to a hard-drive, but I just don't care enough to do that, when I can use FOSS software and Creative Commons songs, e-books etc..

Quick reminder of the EU study on piracy, it showed that it didnt hurt sales so they decided to remove the study. Later with transparency laws people were able recover it. LINK to news, LINK to study

So my philosophy is: If I couldn't pirate this, would I ignore it or buy it? If it's the latter I buy it, if it's the former I pirate it. Basically if the creator (or distributor or whatever) isn't gonna benefit either way might as well enjoy it. I also exclusively pirate anime because the way streaming currently works is a mess.

When Netflix went viral, things were nice, all the content I wanted to watch was pretty much there, for an affordable price.

Then it all went to shit with geolocking and everyone having their shitty streaming service.

I liked how on Netflix you could initially change language and subtitles, then for some pretty fucking stupid reason they decided to remove languages and subtitles, so I went back to the bay.

Regarding games, it's pretty messed up how Mexico is the most expensive country in the world to buy games, steam normally increases the price up to 75% more than the base price.

Just for context, in my state the average monthly personal income is around $7k MXN which is around $400 USD

Starfield premium edition was being sold for $135 USD. Imagine paying more than a third of your monthly income just to play a bugged ass Bethesda game.

I pirate when it's literally less effort than buying. This mostly applies to E-books. Also I pirate a lot of shows and movies because fuck subscribing to 10 different streaming services.

For TV shows, I am just fed up with stuff not being available in my country. If you don’t want to sell it to me, I’m not going to pay. Or all the studios having their own streaming services. I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. Those were supposed to be the new Blockbuster kind of thing, if you want to fragment the market so much that I’d be paying close to a hundred dollars then it’s simply not something I’d could buy anyway. So if I’m not able to afford it I can just pirate, no customer lost. Also, because it’s fucking easy and often more convenient than streaming services.

I directly support artists that I like. I pirate absolutely anything and everything without a care. I do not respect the concept of intellectual property. It is economic perversion to make scarce an infinite resource. May the copyright régime perish.

I pirate shows/movies, and books by big name rich authors, or dead authors.

I’m not going to lie to myself to justify it. I know what it is. I’ve known what it is since my dial up days.

Streaming sucks at the moment so I pirate TV and movies. I've recently pirated a few books but that's mainly because it hadn't even occurred to me that I could until recently. I'm not a big reader.

I don't really care about the ethics of it. I used to pirate music in my teens but now we have things like iTunes and Spotify and I don't feel any reason to now. If TV and movies get back to that, I'll stop pirating that too.

For me it's just convenience and saving a bit of money not having 18 subscriptions.

For me, it's simple. I generally stick to A/V media for any of the Linux ISOs I download.

It simply comes down to this: is there a simple, and affordable way for me to watch what I want? If so, do it.

For music, I just have a subscription to my music service of choice. For me that's YouTube music (formerly Google Play music); but it could just as easily be apple music or Spotify or tidal.... they all have 99% of all music, so the provider I go with will service all my needs for less than $20/mo. With ytm, I can also share the service with family, without really any additional cost. Within limits, of course.

For TV/movies, everything is splintered between more than a handful of services, each charging ~$15/mo or more. So to get access to everything, I would need to pay more than $100/mo.

Yo ho ho me maties. That's not simple, nor cheap. Yarrrr.

Give me a single website to go to, that gives me a single reasonable fee that I can then access everything on paramount+, HBO Max, Netflix, Hulu, Disney+.... (You get the idea)... and I'll hang up my hat for good. Since that's never going to happen, I'll just be over here, sharpening my hook.

I started pirating because it was the default for me. I was a young child and I had access to the family computer I had no money so I learned how to pirate before I learned how to buy games also piracy is real popular in my country because its poor af. Later on I became political and relized mega corps didn't need my money, lots of other people were throwing their money into these bottomless pits anyway. About indie games I try to buy them but since I now am a teenager with no money and in a lot poorer country I tend to pirate them anyway even though its wrong

I live in a country where the government doesn't really care about piracy so I pirated a lot of things in my life.

Before the whole "streaming wars" I actually stopped pirating shoes and movies because Netflix was much more convenient. But nowadays every service has 1 or 2 things that I want to watch or sometimes it just gets removed from the platform so pirating became more convenient somehow.

Books on the other hand are kinda different. I prefer physical books but I live in a non English speaking country so when a new book comes out and I want to read it I have two choices either hope that some publisher translates it even then the translation sucks most of the time or just pirate it.

I don't pirate indie games. Other games depends on the company.

I get almost all literature for my papers from libgen and scihub. I even have access to a lot or journals through my uni's VPN, but it's just much simpler and quicker to use the open seas.

My justification is that a) scientific journal publishers are evil and a scourge on humankind, and b) on average, I only need like 1% of the info in such literature, so I would never buy it anyway, which means that me pirating it doesn't affect sales in any way.

I can't find any logically consistent way too label piracy as immoral. It doesn't remove the original and it's just creating virtually free copies. It's the definition of a victimless crime.

The fact that you're hypothetically removing profit from the creator only becomes a moral issue if that loss of profit is A) guaranteed, that is, the recipient of the free copy would definitely have paid for it otherwise, and B) is significant enough to impact their life negatively. And the latter happening is much more an indictment of the system that demands people justify their existence through the extraction of profit than it is of the consumers who are just copying a few bytes.

The idea of paying more than a few cents for any digital media is frankly absurd. It's highway robbery that we're paying the same amount to rent a copy of a movie as to buy a pound of meat or a gallon of gas. It's 99% just blatant price gouging.

I buy stuff to support authors/artists that I like, and my dollar goes further if I keep as much money as possible out of corporate hands. Oh and if any scum bag puts ads in something I already paid them for I am pirating and seeding the torrents.

I pay for free stuff (FOSS services etc), and pirate paid stuff. Feel right somehow, can't explain why exactly.

My piracy preference revolves around that convinience tops all. Spotify has all the music I listen to, so I subscribe to it. Netflix doesn't have the shows I want to watch, so I make a Jellyfin server that auto downloads all the stuff I'm planning to watch. Steam has most of the games I would want without much restrictions, so I buy games there. I want no interruptions from the content I want to use, and stuff like ads, content unavailability, geoblocks are a big no for me.

I'm very casual for a pirate.

If I can't afford it or I believe it's ridiculously overpriced (cough, adobe cough cough), or if I am against some stupid client that phones home and sucks resources (again cough cough adob..) then I'll pirate it.

If I can't purchase it because it's nowhere available for sale, say, some 90s series in such and such language- pirate.

Finally, if I'm curious about something but not feeling comitted, I'll pirate first then see if I buy.

I don't justify any of this. I just do.

I just want a service that's better than Netflix/Amazon/Disney/Spotify can offer. I want all my media in one place. I want access to it even if the internet is down. Segmentation of media across all the platforms is bullshit and it drives me wild. I'm getting less than what I paid for when Netflix was the only game in town. It's worse and less than what it used to, so why bother paying them.

I pirate everything I consume.

I do believe artists should be paid for what they create, so I still purchase music even if I've already pirated it. The artists get more money from me than they would have if I just streamed on Spotify. I think it's a win-win for me and the artists.

Do I pirate? Yes.

My philosophy? I don't wanna pay for it.

Honestly, with the exception of abandonware that can't legally be bought anywhere, piracy can't be legitimately excused. If you do it, you do it because you want something that you should pay for, but don't wanna. Which is a choice you can make, I won't hate you for it, but own that instead of pretending that you have a logical moral argument to getting it.

Yes. Yes, because I fucking can. And if I love a movie so much I want to own it, I buy the bluray, no I don’t that’s a lie

I pirate mostly out of convenience, I just want access to whatever media I'm interested in and if there's a subscription wall between it and me, then more often than not it's just easier for me to pirate it than bothering to pay for it

Because streaming services are either slow at releasing new episode or the service isn't available at my region. (Restrictions they put themselves, not my countries government)

They don't want my money :(

I only "pirate" stuff that isn't being sold by a rights-holder at the current time.

There's a stunning amount of stuff out there (like really old games that have now-defunct devs and publishers, for example) that isn't being offered first-hand for sale any longer.

Morally, I think it's our duty to use and preserve such things, so that they aren't lost to time. Some may say that it's technically piracy, but... I really don't see it that way.

I used to pirate everything when I had no money. Now that I have money I buy games - including everything I ever pirated - and I pay for a few other subscription services that are worth or nearly worth their price. I pirate anything else.

I don't own a ship but if I did you best believe I would find a crew and use it to raid billionaire yachts while torrenting copyrighted material.

It's super interesting to me that piracy is generally considered immoral, but going to the library is considered pious. Obviously there's some differences with these things... But in general I find it incredibly frustrating and depressing that we have developed the tools to copy and share information pretty much instantaneously across the globe and that we have decided that this is a bad thing instead of a miracle. Obviously I still want people to be able to make things and make a living, but I wish we could find a better way to do this while providing access to more people. We can have kick-ass libraries with modern technology, but it's stunted for legal and capitalistic reasons... I'm not saying I have all of the answers, but I wish more people could at least recognize that as a shame.

I pay for things that are more convenient than piracy. Namely games and music.

EBooks and audiobooks are too expensive, the multitude of video services too inconvenient.

My actions sometimes result in massive corporations not maximizing their potential profit. I'm fine with it, capitalism gets all my money anyway.

I never pirated much, then I pretty much stopped when online services became usable and cost effective.

Now I really feel the urge to go back to pirating, services have become extremely fragmented and difficult to use. There are less shows/movies available than ever. And the cost is sky rocketing.