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Summary

Progressives criticized House Democrats for choosing Rep. Gerry Connolly over Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for the top Democratic seat on the House Oversight Committee.

The 131-84 vote, reportedly influenced by former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, sparked backlash against the party’s “gerontocracy,” with critics like MSNBC’s Joy Reid and others arguing it prioritizes seniority over fresh ideas.

Connolly defended the decision, citing his experience, but progressives argued it reflects the Democratic Party’s resistance to change, hindering its ability to address future challenges and energize younger voters.

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[–] JustAnIdiotPlsIgnore@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Democrats are going to lose the next election by not learning anything from the 2024 election. This will only get worse until we take back control of the party or start our own party and split the vote guaranteeing the republicans win the next midterm and presidential election.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

The Democrats are going to lose the next election by not learning anything from the 2024 election.

Which they lost by not learning anything from the 2016 election.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 155 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's not just that he's 74...

It's not just that he got diagnosed with terminal throat cancer, and told voters the day after the recent election.

It's that it hasn't been two years since he last violated (the already barely existent) rules against Congress doing a little insider trading.

https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/gerry-connolly-stocks/

Like, did anyone think when Pelosi was weighing in on the oversight committee, that the person she was backing wasnt corrupt and would actually hold anyone from either party accountable?

Pelosi didn't care just because she hates everyone under retirement age. It's because she needed to know the person in charge of the oversight committee had no reason to hold anyone accountable.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's what I mean, she's corrupt as fuck.

Everyone got hung up on Pelosi just "disliking" AOC, but this would have allowed AOC to investigate Pelosi and other corrupt Dems.

So Pelosi made sure a corrupt Dem got it. That way the status quo is maintained: Dems only go after R, and R only goes after Dems. But neither ever make anything stick.

AOC would try to go after everyone corrupt, and the Republicans would go with it if the target was a Dem.

We'd weed out corruption from the Dem party which would increase turnout, and likely retain the seats.

But it would be bad for Pelosi, and she'll always put herself over party or country

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

That would have been awesome. Purge the Dems of the liberals for a left takeover.

A boy can dream.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Just want to point out that most of the top traders are always Republicans but they're never talked about in this context and Pelosi sometimes doesn't even beat the S&P500.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

74? My brother in Quetzalcōātl, she's 84.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 102 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

The DNC is a right wing corpo puppet masquerading as opposition.

They're far more comfortable with a fascist as President than they would a leftist like AOC.

Stare at what their priorities are a month before Trump takes office, sabotaging their most leftwing members. Commuting the sentences of profiteer judges. Herp derp gotta keep moving right after all! (just an aside, I love the neoliberals defending Biden's corrupt pardons as "just senile/incompetent")

Reminder: the only leftist congresspeople are spoiler candidates. The DNC promotes solely on the basis of how well you prove you can be bought by large money donors, which tells you all you need to know about who's side they're on. The same side as the Fascists on economic policy, as they get the same checks from the same oligarchs.

I've voted blue for 20 years, with my nose held hoping for harm reduction. I phonebanked for Sanders in 2 campaigns. I already know it's all a sham. You can vote whoever you want as long as they're pro corpo capitalism. But in the 2028 primary, when I see the DNC yet again doing everything they can to kneecap a progressive to install a neoliberal, I'm walking away, as it's just another system of control. The illusion of choice.

If the people won't overcome their "free market" propaganda and vote against the shape and priorities of this sociopath owned economy literally legally conning and murdering us for tidy profits, we can't be saved, and there's nothing worth saving left.

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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The ol battle axe was in hospital recovering from hip replacement surgery, but Pelosi still has the heart of a true leader, and managed to get a "young 74 year old" the seat. Way to go Democrats! You fucking idiots are why we have trump part deux.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

It's been far less reported but they did almost the exact same thing to Katie Porter in California. She was another rising star that got snuffed out by the DNC machine. They redistrict her seat and then they locked her out of the Senate election and pushed one of their elites in her place.

It was almost an exact repeat of what happened to Nina Turner in Ohio in 2021. Everywhere they can the Democrats lock out progressives. The Democratic party does not give one single shit. All they care about is the money and power they get as politicians. Everything they say is lip service.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

it’s fine I’ve got experience

A fat lot of good your fucking “experience” has done us lately, wouldn’t you say, Connolly, you ossified, cancer-ridden, insider-trading, neoliberal establishment fuck.

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[–] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Democrats don't deserve anymore support. We've got to get a party for the working class. It's just corporate whores in the GOP and DNC.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago
[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The progress wing should leave the party. Force the dems to come crawling or show their hands as sleeper Republicans

[–] alloloto@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

The frustration is real. There's a movement to create an American Labor Party. I think if it gets enough steam we might see some real change.

[–] AlijahTheMediocre@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'd be hopeful if it wasn't mathematically almost impossible for a third party. But as soon as it happens sign me up regardless.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Its mathematically impossible to have three parties at once that are viable. If enough democrats and republicans move to a third party that it becomes one of the big two, thats fine. The democrats can be the new green party.

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[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (4 children)

why are the fucking boomers so resistant of letting go of power? pelosi is 84 years old, she belongs in a nursing house, not politics

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

As with most people in that position, they've been fucking over people for so long that they're terrified of someone turning the tables on them. Hence gathering ungodly amounts of wealth and insulating themselves from the world.

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[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

rich old white guy: i have an idea - lets have a rich old white guy do it instead

[all vote yea]

:/

[–] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Yeah fuck the Democrats. I'm not giving the DNC or any mainstream PACs any more money. It'll all go through AOC and Bernie from here on out. (Not that my meager contributions mean much to the DNC Corporate whores.)

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

I'm not actually that surprised a vote by a bunch of politicians was decided based on politics and not which candidate was a better fit.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

I'll believe they are "up in arms" as soon as they actually do anything.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ, these people don't learn.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Exactly. This isn't a mistake or incompetence, it's the point.

It's what they're paid to do. War over social issue symptoms with their "opposition" to present a false choice to the rubes who believe they're "free," while protecting the completely captured economy exactly as it is... From the people suffering it.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago

There is NO TIME to do something about the Democratic party better than NOW.

Nothing much going on, no major elections, let's just get ourselves in shape for 2028. Or 2032 of it takes that long, but DAMNIT, let's get started!

They want a leadership power struggle? They want to play games, like everything's ok, "This is fine?" Let's not. Instead of expressing disgust, wringing our hands, shaking our heads, let's start something new. RIGHT NOW.

Because even a year from now would be too late.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Old white men gonna old white men.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe use those arms for more than just finger-wagging.

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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

My current opinion is not that schisming from the DNC would be a winning move, but if we do it should definitely happen now rather than later.

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Split, fight, go to war, destroy half of the shitty parts of our party and come back as a unionist party of the fucking people and I might not consider a blue tie a fucking joke the next time I see one.

Clean house, and by clean house, fire yourselves outside of the firebrands and let them take us up to 11.

[–] VintageTech@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

And they wonder why people start hitting people over the head with hammers.

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