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oldie meme but needed to bring this back due to recent incidents 😭

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[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

That’s French toast erasure.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I see more Motte-and-bailey fallacy.

I see less "I like pancakes" and more "I think pancakes are superior to waffles" from the first commenter.

Then the second commenter responds, "So you hate waffles?"

Then the first commenter retreats to "No, I just like pancakes. Why are you assuming what I'm saying? Don't you understand I'm being nuanced?"

Also, nuance is one of the more recent words to have a new usage like literally, which can now mean figuratively. When people say their argument is nuanced they mean it is good or correct. It reminds me of the use objective to describe a person to pretend they don't have biases to incorrectly validate their arguments.

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[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm convinced that most people don't read anything before sharing their opinion. An opinion with zero relevance or weight is absolutely useless.

[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah but I preffer the pineapple before the pizza, that way the mass feels saltier.

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] MBM@lemmings.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

how dare you say we piss on the poor

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

i never said that! i only piss on the MOON

Who's more poor than the moon, though? It not just doesn't have any money, it's not even ALLOWED to own money!

[–] konalt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

YOU HAVE 23 HOURS BEFORE THE PISS DROPLETS HIT THE FUCKING EARTH

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

You hate Lemmy????!

[–] Bender_on_Fire@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

While I don't want to deny that people try to put words into others mouths, I think context is still important. It is possible and even quite typical to send messages beyond the meaning of the actual words used in a statement and simply playing dumb when someone calls you out for doing that is also not a great look.

Think of going to a waffles-convention and just walking around claiming that you, in fact, like pancakes. Of course people are going to assume you're a troll.

It's important to think of different perspectives and at least consider if something you meant in a very innocent way might still not sit right with someone else. Certainly not easy to do, mistakes will always happen, but honestly trying makes a huge difference imo.

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Equally common, unfortunately, is people who don't state their point, they just lay out the pieces and expect you to put it together, but then if you say something bad about it suddenly that's "not what I said". Schrodinger's point.

I've developed a response to comments that do this saying-it-but-not-saying-it thing, and while I try to judge sincerity, there are false positives. An okay approach I've found is just to ask people to clarify: if they say something reasonable they're genuine, and if they dodge the question they're a troll or someone who doesn't want to admit they believe something bad.

[–] LifeLemons@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I like cameras to capture picture

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it can be important to see the intent behind words and ask for clarifications. Oftentimes people are not direct about their opinions.

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Me when I talk to my wife...

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] parity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Idk, she's super cool to me.

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[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Bruh, it's so real. I made a comment that whenever I get messed up food at a restaurant, id rather just ask for a refund than ask for a replacement. Obviously there's a lot of nuance in this comment, but I had people taking all kinds of meanings from it. One guy told me I was a complete asshole and some other stuff, just because I'd rather have a refund at the McDonald's instead of asking the overworked, underpaid employees to remake my order as I sat in the drive-through, and so I wouldn't have to pull over and wait even longer.

People just want to be pissed off and angry.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

And some are just trolling, that sounds like you were trolled.

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