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oldie meme but needed to bring this back due to recent incidents 😭

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 48 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Me: "I like pancakes"

Lemmy: "Only a shitlib western imperialist would think that. Read more Lenin."

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 19 points 6 days ago

Me: “I like waffles”

Lemmy: “HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO GO MY LIFE WITHOUT PANCAKES YOU OPPRESSIVE INSENSITIVE FUCK”

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 3 points 6 days ago

Nah, that's just .ml

True, properly educated and vetted comrades would prefer blini.

I like that the name of the platform has been written over.

"This is only happening locally here at and not at ". And that's happening for every place in the internet.

Marvellous

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 17 points 6 days ago (4 children)

This is anywhere on the internet.

[–] IAmVeraGoodAtThis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This is anywhere, period. You can do that with letters, you can do that with speeches, or in casual conversations.

And you're not always wrong about it either.

If you've played Disco Elysium, "Welcome to Revachol". If you haven't, play it. It's an amazing game

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[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

This is just text written anywhere. There's an art to making yourself understood in different contexts.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In my experience, this happens way less on Lemmy than on Reddit before the IPO.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

i can’t speak to the frequency but the tone is definitely different when it happens here compared to on reddit, probably influenced by the demographic and field of interest differences. the ml roots of the place really have echoed throughout the tone of the space, so most of the arguments have a really cynical, high alert, almost superstitious affect to them that i never really encountered on reddit. (some random account i thought i was cool with is trying to like psychoanalyze my recent posts to find my true intentions? i gave up on that convo)

your mileage may vary, of course!

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

your mileage may vary, of course!

Blocking all of .ml makes your experiences vastly more pleasant

[–] DoeJohn@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I wish I could do that, but sadly the Linux community is barely alive on any instance other than .ml.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

TBF, I understand this annoying kind of 'reading into it'. at the same time, if someone starts dropping dogwhistles or starts dancing around something in a convo, i am definitely gonna read into that shit.

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

If you don't like waffles just say it...

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[–] renrenPDX@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What…. This is on par with any kind of internet discourse. It’s pretty much why I hardly ever post prior to Lemmy. It doesn’t matter how well articulated the post, SOMEONE will find the need to correct or clarify unnecessarily.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 7 points 6 days ago (19 children)

it’s really sad because i take great pride and pleasure from reading other people’s thoughts and posts. but when i try to give back, it’s immediately jumped on by dogpilers and “oh you actually meant something else…” people. and when i do the bare minimum to defend myself, they slap back with the “okay buddy, sure” and downvote my defense so it’s invisible to other readers.

needless to say my blocklist is nearing 100 users.

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[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I'm convinced that most people don't read anything before sharing their opinion. An opinion with zero relevance or weight is absolutely useless.

[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but I preffer the pineapple before the pizza, that way the mass feels saltier.

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 5 points 6 days ago

Why do you think you're better than us?

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 6 points 6 days ago

You hate Lemmy????!

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I see more Motte-and-bailey fallacy.

I see less "I like pancakes" and more "I think pancakes are superior to waffles" from the first commenter.

Then the second commenter responds, "So you hate waffles?"

Then the first commenter retreats to "No, I just like pancakes. Why are you assuming what I'm saying? Don't you understand I'm being nuanced?"

Also, nuance is one of the more recent words to have a new usage like literally, which can now mean figuratively. When people say their argument is nuanced they mean it is good or correct. It reminds me of the use objective to describe a person to pretend they don't have biases to incorrectly validate their arguments.

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

So you're saying Twitter is better?

/jk

Sure, it happens here, but I feel the toxicity on Lemmy is far less then on Reddit or other platforms, and with toxicity I mean including people assuming you're saying something else because they are triggered somehow. But it's very hard not to stumble upon people like that. Trolls rule the universe, they are everywhere.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago

I also feel like posts like these are specifically part of the toxicity, encouraging it because "haha funy"

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It may be less toxic, but that's only if you share the sentiments many lemmy users share. The echo chamber is louder here

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[–] oshu@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I just ignore and block if it continues. I got no time for people who are responding to the voices in their head instead of what I'm actually writing.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

On the other hand, a failure to make assumptions about what someone is saying leads to people being able either to willfully misrepresent their positions ("Oh, I don't hate waffles, I just bring up how the world would be better without waffles in every conversation, no matter how tangential!") or unintentionally fail to see the necessary implications of their statements ("I'm not saying waffles are better, I'm just saying pancakes are worse!")

All language has some ambiguity, which necessitates assumption in communication.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think it can be important to see the intent behind words and ask for clarifications. Oftentimes people are not direct about their opinions.

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Me when I talk to my wife...

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] parity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Idk, she's super cool to me.

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

It's okay 😁 we're both very open about, and aware of, this issue. So I just let her know it's happening and we giggle about it (sometimes). 😄

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