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[–] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 190 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Anyone who thinks they stand a chance against drones with a gun hasn't been paying attention to what's happening in Ukraine.

Gonna pew pew a CEO in the back? Sure, guns work for that.

Trying to save your own life against a fast and agile target that needs way less precision than you to be effective and probably never even presents a target? Nah mate, you're fucked.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 111 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (37 children)

There are some, handheld firearms that are used as a last-ditch / cheap anti drone solution in Ukraine, by both sides.

Drum roll.....

https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2024/analysis-shotguns-emerge-as-a-frontline-defense-against-drones-in-evolving-military-and-security-tactics

Its shotguns.

Because they have a spread of multiple shot pellets instead of a single bullet.

Fucking obviously duh, they've been used to hunt small, evasive birds routinely, everywhere, for like 150+ years.

Hunting a nimble flying object with a sniper rifle is a laughably absurd idea.

This actual post from this woman is so stupid I would have thought it was from a 12 year old whose only experience with guns is from CoD... but nope, its a 50ish(?) year old woman.

Guess she's never hunted birds, and thinks its just the same as hunting deer or hogs or something???

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shotguns just can’t stop winning

[–] Slab_Bulkhead@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"winning" and my dumb brain..

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

I heard that guy's a real crack shot.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ive heard and seen some images and videos of soliders building their own antidrone ammo. They rip the tip off the casing and heat shrink a coulple of bbs together and crimp them to the casing. I'm not certain how legitimate or effective it is but I've seen several videos and images of it. They recomend staggering the homemade rounds with tracer rounds to help with aiming.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

Hah, I suppose that could work!

Reminds me of ratshot .22 rounds.

Maybe somebody will start properly manufacturing basically ratshot 5.56 rounds.

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[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now here's a thought... What about using drones to "take care of" a CEO? The risk of being caught would be lower, as you can be located hundreds of meters away or more. It's also relatively easy to acquire a drone, and you can make explosives with stuff you can buy at the hardware store.

(Disclaimer: This is just a thought experiment, I'm not dumb enough to try this, don't worry FBI :3)

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)
  1. Drones that weigh 0.55 pounds or more must be registered with the Federal Aviation Administration. If you buy a drone, you're supposed to register it, and that puts the drone and your name into a Federal database.

  2. Every electronic device with networking capability that exists has a "burned-in" MAC address that tells you info on the manufacturer, etc. This coupled with the drones serial number can narrow down specifically which device it was and allow law enforcement to figure out which specific store sold this specific drone. Then they hit the store with a warrant for the customers, match up the drone to a name, and go.

  3. Communications with commercially available drones are generally unencrypted and easily intercepted. Triangulation of the source of the controlling unit would be trivial.

It's sooooo fucking easy to find someone who is using a drone if you're serious about it. It just takes law enforcement being serious about it. Also, there's a good chance that since you have to register it with the FAA that any crime committed with it would be considered a Federal crime.

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You don't have to register it with the FAA; you're already going to murder someone, who cares if you break a few more laws?

The last point assumes someone's recording the wireless activity of the drone in the moments before the explosion, which I think is pretty unlikely. And the internals of the drone should be destroyed by the explosion, rendering it practically impossible to extract any identifying information other than the general drone model.

And even if all wireless traffic is being recorded and triangulated, pick a busy place and you're just one guy on your phone in a crowd of thousands. You can also order the drone anonymously months ahead of time and pick it up somewhere with poor security camera coverage to all but ensure there's no record linking it to you.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Register with the FAA? Lmao
Yes, yes. Let's also register our crime gun before we do the crimes with it.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago
  1. They're supposed to be registered for use, but that's something YOU do, on the website. That's not done automatically as part of the purchase.
  2. Not all stores manage inventory at the serial number level.
  3. That requires them to be actively looking for it while you're flying. Once you turn off your transmitter there's nothing to track. Don't fly near restricted airspace and they have no reason to try to fine a random drone pilot.
[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Communications with commercially available drones are generally unencrypted and easily intercepted. Triangulation of the source of the controlling unit would be trivial.

You'd have to be looking for it while the drone was being operated, so you would have to either monitor all the time or be tipped off that someone was coming to get you. This isn't really a good deterrent to drone-based assassination.

Also, drones are trivial to build on your own these days. With a few months of extremely basic electronics education, a pile of off-the-shelf components and a little iteration you can have your own "ghost" drone that you can control via RF, cell towers from a modem you put onboard, bluetooth, line-of-sight-laser or whatever. The weapons on it are a different story, but people have been improvising ways to off each other forever. It's kind of what humans do best.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 65 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Scoped gun for a drone OK yeah, you clearly know what you're doing.

[–] Etterra 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And that bipod, expert gun believer right there.

[–] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
  • Prone shooting position, check
  • Bipod firmly on the ground, check
  • Aim at drone overhead, shit…
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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm not a gun person, but it seems to me like anyone who claims they can shoot down a drone with a rifle is also revealing themselves to not be a gun person.

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[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Please, do NOT shoot at airborn targets, or any target where your are not certain a missed shot will safely land in an empty area.

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also shooting down a drone counts as shooting down an actual airplane, which is like, a super felony. So probably just don't.

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

GovCo owns the drones. The simple fact that they haven't shot them down means they own them.

This is a distraction. It's to distract people because for some reason there was a sudden unexpected explosion of class consciousness.

Stop talking about the fucking govt drones. Keep scaring billionaires.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The one I saw a picture of was a manned helicopter. (Flying in a legal area too .. which is why they aren't being shot down near a military base, because if they were a threat, in air they weren't allowed to fly in... They would be intercepted or shot down)

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[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All she has in her house are succulents? That makes sense. They're literally the only things someone like her could possibly hope to keep alive. They need almost zero attention, maintenance, or moisture.

Just like her brain.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 33 points 1 week ago (6 children)

shes more likely to die at the end of that gun than a drone. but only if you go by reality, statistics, etc.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Or some bystander of shooting into the air.

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[–] frunch@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

More on this splendid human being:

In now deleted tweets from 2015, it’s clear Rep. Maddox has always held racist beliefs. In an October 2015 tweet, Maddox responded to someone calling President Barack Obama a “coon” by saying that “Obama is not black. He is of African ancestry, not sharing the Black American heritage or experience.” 

In a March 2015 tweet, Maddox said that “childhood sexual assault and neglect” was the reason for homosexuality and that she blamed the parents and LGBTQ people for their sexual preferences.  

In a January 2015 tweet she claimed Islam is a “faith about destruction” and that there are no Islamic “hospitals, orphanages or universities.” 

She's a genuine shit-person. 100% real human excrement propped up with modern technology to walk and talk sorta like a real human being!

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[–] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Goodness me, what hate does to people. She was born in 1987 but looks like she could well be in her 50's.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

She's younger than me?!? Jesus Christ.

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 week ago

If it flies, it spies

Birdwatching goes both ways

c/birdsarentreal

[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Fucking moron. You'll never hit a drone with that! The ruskies have been trying that for the last couple years with virtually zero success.

New Jersey people need new glasses...

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's no way she could hit a drone with a rifle

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, a shotgun is probably a better choice.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I swear, that picture and her profile look AI generated. That smile... WTF.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

People used to actually have to try to look this fake before computers would just do it for them.

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[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why is she in the kitchen?

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's where conservative women belong

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You'll notice a lot of videos made by conservative groups featuring women happen to be filmed in Kitchens.

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[–] Etterra 13 points 1 week ago

Old and busted: UFOs

New hotness: drones

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

This bitch gonna shoot down actual manned aircraft, judging by the reports

[–] RedC@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Dumbass gun owners, sending rounds into unsuspecting people since 1364

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 12 points 1 week ago
[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So there's a lot of things about these drones being Aliens (and a lot of things about Aliens in general).

If they really are aliens, do you think beings who travelled here through interstellar space and the technology to come to earth within (we assume) a single lifetime are going to be felled by a fucking gun?

I don't think the Aliens are hostile because if they were, we'd be dead by now.

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