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[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 111 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I'm not a dog breed expert, but...

The other day an agressive dog that looked like a pitbull, suddenly lunged at me barking loudly... It was about 10ft away from me but still scared the shit out of me

The owner yanked the dog back on its leash and i thought, "FML, the only thing that saved me from a deadly mauling was a 3/4 inch wide piece of nylon with a metal clip the guy bought off amazon for $5"

[–] Seraph@kbin.social 98 points 1 year ago (6 children)

"But my little velvet hippo couldn't hurt anyone!"

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hippos are super aggressive, territorial, and will bite a crocodiles in half. It’s amazing that’s supposed to be a cute, disarming nickname for a breed notorious for the same traits.

[–] _xDEADBEEF@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also the most deadliest land mammal, the hippo that is.

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[–] snipgan@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair most won’t, but they definitely can and do.

Especially when they are jaws on legs that are more inclined compared to other dogs.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Yup. I've crunched the numbers before, and it's something like 1 in 10,000 pit bulls will attack a human or other companion animal every year. It's not likely for any given pit to attack a person (which I can anecdotally support–they're obnoxiously friendly and loving in my experience), but it's also like 10 times more than the next most vicious breed. In my opinion, it's not worth euthanizing every member of the breed, but it is worth neutering every one. We don't need dog breeds, especially ones responsible for over half of the violent attacks on people and other animals.

Of course, I'm in support of neutering all companion animals to reduce the stray population and ease the strain on shelters, regardless of breed or species. Breed specific laws are only one step towards fixing the larger problem.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Of course, I’m in support of neutering all companion animals to ease the stray population and the strain on shelters, regardless of breed or species. Breed specific laws are only one step towards fixing the larger problem.

Bob Barker is smiling down on you from heaven for this

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[–] Seraph@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (11 children)

The actual issue is that's it's a degenerative disease in dogs of similar breeds. At some point they get old and less able to recognize friend from foe. That might be ok if it weren't for the jaws you mentioned.

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly.

I'd go one step farther and even say if they even had the same amount of attacks as other dogs, had no possible mental diseases, and all want to caring homes I would still put restrictions/ban on them.

They are just too large to handle, too big of a bite to brush off, and end up in dog attacks a lot. That's enough for me.

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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s funny they call them hippos considering that hippos are extremely dangerous and vicious wild animals.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

A shitbull owner using a leash, rare combination.

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[–] snipgan@kbin.social 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (41 children)

Unsurprising. Large “power breeds” like pit bulls I have always found questionable to have.

No restrictions or licenses? No muzzles at least?

A good thing they banned them.

Though I still dislike the outright malice and hate I see when a pit bull in a photo might be doing nothing but staring at a sunset. A bit hate crazy.

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[–] evanuggetpi@lemmy.nz 59 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I used to have a Pitbull, such a beautiful girl, who one day chased and killed one of our cats she'd grown up with. My friend had her brother, such a beautiful boy, who one day chased and killed one of their cats.

Last week, on my lifestyle block, two Pitbulls appeared and killed my chickens before I could stop them. I chased the fuckers off but haven't found where they came from.

That is all.

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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

Every couple of weeks I feed mine a toddler, it seems to keep the violent tendencies away.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Dog breeds all exist for a purpose either still relevant or now redundant.

Before you get a dog, understand what that breed exists for. Even the best obedience training may not overcome generations of refined and selected natural instincts.

It's never the dogs fault. It is always your fault.

[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Whoa grab some popcorn folks cause this comment section is a dumpster fire. Do we have a lemmy drama community yet?

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[–] solstice@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (27 children)

My neighbor has a pit mix and it snarled at me gnashing its teeth once as she walked by. I was just standing there by my car minding my own business barely even acknowledging them. I jump and yell Jesus wtf lady omg. She just made pathetic excuses, he keeps me safe, never does that, it's fiiiiine etc. Ive told her numerous times she needs to train it at the bare minimum, preferably destroy it. I've observed it doing the same to other people as they walk past. I bought pepper spray and look out for them very carefully whenever I go to my car now. I bet it's just a matter of time before someone gets mauled and I hope it's not me. Fucking hate those things.

[–] bufordt@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

After watching my cop neighbor try to drive a dog away with pepper spray, it's not going to help much. Even direct hits to the eyes didn't seem to affect the dog much.

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Good. Too bad more countries aren't doing this.

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[–] Jonny@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I do wonder how much is the breed and how much is shitty owners being attracted to perceived scary breeds. My guess would be a bit of both.

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You don’t need to train a pointer puppy to point. They do it from birth. You don’t need to train a sheep dog to herd. They do it from the moment they can walk. You don’t need to teach a pit bull to latch and shake. They also do that from birth. Training can mitigate the risk, but they’re still very dangerous dogs.

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[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

In the past I'd say it's a bit of both, though moreso the type of shitheads attracted to 'scary' breeds is also as likely to be shit at training/ socialising them. There's some good evidence though that this particular 'XL' breed has higher rates of inbreeding and has already been selected for agression (not to mention their increased size & power).

Think it's a fair point some are making though that just banning the latest dangerous breed is missing the wood for the trees. There should be serious penalties from any dog attack, for the owner; treat it the same as possession of a dangerous weapon like a gun or zombie knife.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

It's bit of both. These morons aren't lining up to buy daschunds.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

You need to go one step further - why do people feel the need to own such dogs in the first place? Some people would say the dog is for protection (from who? And why are those people a threat? It's well known that lack of social and communal services lead to young people ending up involved with gangs and violence), others use it as a status symbol (don't even get me started on consumerism, and commodification of natural shit like animals), and in almost all cases there is a lot of toxic masculinity involved.

These are all deep rooted systemic issues that go far beyond both dogs and owners (don't get me wrong - I am not excusing bad dog ownership, and don't think people should be raising violent and aggressive dogs), and they all need addressing to actually resolve the problem, but it's much easier for those in charge to focus on the end result, and make it an individual issue, they don't care about making society better, they just want power and money.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There's a story that a family dog got loose after a car crash. They found the dog a few days later ... herding sheep. No one ever taught the dog to herd sheep.

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[–] Pieresqi@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pity, teachers should have a good pitbulls to stop the bad ones.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

This isn't the time to discuss pitbull control.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 17 points 1 year ago

They are poor misbreeds anyway.

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