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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 136 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fucking Class traitor. Coyote in sheep's clothing.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/john-fetterman-black-jogger-2013-shotgun-20220425.html

In 2013, Fetterman pursued a man and pulled a shotgun on him because he wrongly believed the man, who turned out to be a Black jogger, had been involved in a shooting.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

Miyares also told The Inquirer their encounter shouldn’t stop Fetterman from becoming a senator.

“Even with everything I said, it is inhumane to believe one mistake should define a man’s life,” Miyares wrote in one of two letters sent to The Inquirer. “I hope he gets to be a Senator.” (That last line was underlined three times.)

Miyares didn’t expect Fetterman to change his account.

“Telling the truth on an incident 10 years ago could cause him more harm than good,” Miyares wrote. “Mr. Fetterman and his family have done far more good than that one bad act or action and, as such, should not be defined by it.”

He signed that letter: “Gooo Fetterman.”

Took an interesting turn. And then another right away

Where is Miyares now?

Miyares wrote to The Inquirer in response to a letter seeking his side of the story. Miyares is serving an 18- to 36-month sentence after being convicted in 2019 of kidnapping, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, and other crimes against a woman who hired him for a ride to work.

According to the criminal complaint, the victim told investigators Miyares pulled out a knife after asking her a series of personal questions, driving a route not in the direction of her job, and locking all the car doors. She forced her door open, escaped, and flagged down nearby drivers for help as Miyares drove off. He later sent her a text message saying he knew where she lived and worked.

Wtf

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is who he's always been, but liberals were blinded by the D in front of his name and chose to ignore the shit he did before getting elected.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes he sucks now, but your lazy take is revisionist history.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 84 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

His noggin seems to be fully healed after his stroke: he's now a fully-functional politician once again, with perfectly working lying, backstabbing, flip-flopping and sycophantic brain functions.

Wish we all had access to this level of healthcare so we could all go back to performing our job to the fullest of our abilities like he does.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

He just can't stop being fuckwit. He's just another Manchin and just needs to become a Republican and GTFO.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He ran around calling himself progressive and talking about all the progressive stuff the country needs...

But all it took was a stroke and a little brain damage for him to go full maga, now he honestly and repeatedly says he doesn't understand why people ever thought he was progressive.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I think the brain damage made him forget that he was willfully lying about being progressive.

[–] caveman8000@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

See the "some more news" video on this guy. He was probably conservative all along but hid it well till recently

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 week ago

Stroking himself all the way to the bank

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 60 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He was never a democrat, people just love a scammer. He his that, passed a lot of money through his organization.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At the height of the presidential election campaign, I got down voted for pointing out at Fetterman and Tulsi Gabbard as examples that there are Democrats who flip, because they rail on "vote blue no matter who". After Trump won his second term, I don't see those die-hard types anymore. They finally admit that the Democratic party is compromised through and through, and that only a progressive takeover of the party will solve the problems that arose.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem is people are trying to beat republicans by being just like them. Republicans stand or kill their own. That created Trump, dems want to do the samething. Normal people need to start running again and need support.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The days of trying to court both sides and moderates have long gone past. It now requires more radical changes. If Democrats indeed want to win again, they have to go further left. The Republicans have rightly deduced that people want drastic change so they are unafraid to go further right (probably also because of influence from the Tea Party movement). Democrats need to go more populist like the Republicans have.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If Democrats indeed want to win again, they have to go further left.

The basic problem is that the Democratic Party isn't at all inclined to go left. The people who run it and fund it want a centre-right party to be the only alternative to the far-right party. Left-wing politics doesn't funnel the money to where they want it to be. So the best they can do is tease people with a vague promise of progressivism, in order to win votes, but with no real intention or commitnent to deliver on it.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Problem is, the nightmare scenario of a second Trump term has already arrived. I don't know if there will be further elections, I assume there will be and act as such. If there are then guess what? The nightmare is already here, and the disaster is already actively destroying the country, so tax credits for starting a small business or whatever the fuck aren't cutting it anymore. I want actual governmental reform.

They can either go left or they can fuck right off. Absolutely nobody will buy the "most important election of our lifetimes" bullshit again after whatever happens next year.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

There will continue to be elections. They just won't be free and fair, particularly in states with Republican control.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Well let's hope it wakes them up. I'm sure there are senior Democrats thinking, "Trump will make a mess and anger people, so we'll just ride this out until we can get reelected then back to business as usual." And "He won't abolish/undermine elections -that's just talk." Some of them will never learn, because they deeply don't want to.

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[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago

the Democratic party is compromised through and through

Always has been.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He was though, in his presentation at least. I still remember him giving this interview in front of a Wawa off the freeway when he was first gaining national prominence - message that felt so strongly progressive yet could be so really absorbed by the broader population.

Fetterman died from that stroke, this is John NOTOURman

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[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be upset if he had another stroke at this point.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its funny how brain injury tends to turn people right.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No it doesn’t. I had a TBI and went further left.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

maybe it has to be combined with excess money.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Well I definitely don’t have that lol

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Maybe it will fix whatever got broke the first time

[–] ClockNimble@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

The "Brain damage made me conservative" guy weighing in again.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago

At least now he seems to be being honest and telling us the kind of shitty person he really is

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what grievance politics leads to. Cenk*, Anna, Fetterman, Dore, etc, when you think of criticism as competition to get to the top, or you think of one person's success as a lack of your own, the only path is towards right wing grift.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Jenk, as in Cenk Uygur from The Young Turks turned to the right?

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sorry, Cenk, not Jenk. The point isn't that all of these people have become right wingers only that once grievance politics begins, that's where it ends if there is no reconciliation. Anna and Cenk both double down and treat other members of the left as competition rather than allies. This will drive them from the movement sooner or later.

When your calculus about why people are critiquing something you say is that they want to lower your status so that they can replace you, you've got a very different reaction, and one that will not involve actual engagement with the criticism. If you look at it from that point of view, their takes start to make more sense.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Oh I get you. I don't really watch TYT before, but the last time I saw them they are quite militant. It put me off from further watching the show.

I know where you're coming from overall. Not everyone of course, but a lot on the left are similarly militant. Frankly, a lot of their ideas, arguments and their messaging approach is very low bar. They consume information sources that are "fast food", shall we say. Both the left and liberals are rightly criticised for being smug, which turns off people or even shies many away from the broader movement. The militant left and liberals are kind of in their bubble and I realised that after interacting with "vote blue no matter who" Democrats and after Trump won. They refuse to acknowledge the root cause of rise of Trumpism as being economic. Instead, they quickly malign Latino, Muslim, black and white working class folks who voted for Trump as dumb, racist, etc. They forget that white working class used to vote Democrats...

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[–] Fish@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He named his media organization after a bunch of genocidaires for one.

[–] Fish@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't watch TYT, so I can't go into too many specifics. But from what I do know, Cenk and Ana have both been buying into the crime scare bullshit, and agree with Republicans on immigration. Ana has also been saying stuff that is anti-trans. Cenk and Ana are no longer at all leftists. Maybe funding dried up and they are trying to pander to a different audience?

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Still better than Oz would have been.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure but that's like saying "at least it's not pancreatic cancer" when you have a brain tumor.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago

at least it’s not pancreatic cancer

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I almost wonder if things would have been better if Oz did get elected. Like when Massachusetts elected Scott Brown but then replaced him with Elizabeth Warren.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

That's a fair point!

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

What a piece of shit, pardoning Trump would do nothing to slow him down from destroying every social advancement made since 1920.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

That's not Fetterman, Fetterman died.

[–] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

This dude needs to be ‘primaried’ back to the stone age.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I think this is a lesson for those of us who support economic populism: even though many, if not most Americans agree on many economic issues, we don't agree on everything. I don't know that we can say we have a majority consensus movement. I think there is a movement that has a plurality, and that's the Trump movement. As much as many of us might find that pretty disheartening, I think it is nonetheless true. Of the two main populist movements in the US, the progressive populist movement is simply not as large as the right-wing, Trump populist movement. I don't know if people like Fetterman are just more aligned with the Trump movement ideologically, or if they're moving to the larger populist movement for strategic reasons.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Disgusting. Fuck this dude.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

This matches up with him saying "good night" as his very first line in that debate.

That was an oopsie, but now he seems to have taken the conservative route of, identify with saying the opposite of reality instead of getting better at stating reality.

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