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[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 375 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Threatening the hospital that was denying my father care, leaving him to die, was the only way I got into the literal board room to reason with them. I got them to resume treatment after they dicked around for a month and he refused to leave because he was going to die if he left.

He still died because he was so sick at that point that they couldn’t do the procedure he needed when he first arrived.

So I threatened them in 2010, and I’d fucking do it again now for my child. We are supposed to stand up for our loved ones.

[–] obre@lemmy.world 137 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's disgusting. There needs to be legal recognition of all that is at stake for patients and their families. The denial of necessary care is structural violence and should be treated as such by everyone.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed. It’s straight up murder

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

got them to resume treatment after they dicked around for a month and he refused to leave because he was going to die if he left.

I had to play this card once, too. I was in the cardiac unit for 28 days, and they were going to send me home because they couldn’t figure out what was wrong, and the insurance decided I wasn’t worth the expense anymore.

I refused to leave until they gave me a diagnosis, because i would have just died otherwise.

Pretty sure the healthcare system still wants that.

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 266 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

So, no free speech in the US after all?

[–] QuincyPeck@lemmy.world 186 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Depends on how much money you have.

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 84 points 2 weeks ago

🌎👩🏼‍🚀🔫👩🏼‍🚀

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[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 180 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

I imagine the "Delay, Deny, Depose" didn't get her in trouble nearly as much as the "You people are next" part. Yeah, that's a bit hostile there.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 286 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Please, marginalized people get more explicitly threatening crap said to them all the time and people rarely get arrested or charged for that. She's being charged because the system wants to make an example out of her. The judge basically said so himself at the bail hearing,

"I do find that the bond of $100,000 is appropriate considering the status of our country at this point," the judge said.

[–] ArtieShaw@fedia.io 68 points 2 weeks ago

Ouch. "This place is a shit show," the judge said. (Not really, just fixed it for him).

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[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 118 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I've met victims of domestic violence who were threatened much worse than "you guys are next" so I'm not buying this as anything other than the system trying to use her as an example.

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 50 points 2 weeks ago

There's no direct threat there more than saying the boogeyman will get you. People threaten marginalized communities like this on TV, radio and social media every day with no impunity because it's just vague enough not to count because stochastic terrorism is totally cool for SOME people.

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[–] Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world 174 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Remember this the next time the cops tell someone they can’t do anything about a stalker or angry ex threatening to kill them until they actually act. They can do something. They choose not to.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Judges too! He set her bail at 100K. Rapists get less than that.

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[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 161 points 2 weeks ago (31 children)

She said "Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next," according to the article.

[–] joker125@lemmy.world 118 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Funny part is insurance companies hear worse than this all day long however this is their trigger.

L O L

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[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 2 weeks ago

I hope she's right

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[–] CgH10N4Co2@lemmy.cafe 138 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Proof that the justice system only serves the wealthy.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 120 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Let's make them more..... concerned.

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[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 100 points 1 week ago (4 children)

From the article’s source article:

“She’s been in this world long enough that she certainly should know better that you can’t make threats like that in the current environment that we live in and think that we’re not going to follow up and put you in jail,” said Lakeland Police Chief Sam Taylor.

I thought we had a legal definition of a real threat, and this isn’t it.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago

This man on the other hand was released after his EIGHTH stalking arrest in three years.

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/plano-man-8th-arrest-stalking-harassing-smu-students/

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[–] Erasmus@lemmy.world 89 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

After being charged with threats to conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism, a judge set Boston's bond at $100,000.

"I do find that the bond of $100,000 is appropriate considering the status of our country at this point," the judge said.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 94 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Thank goodness for that freedom of speech we have ...

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 84 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Attorneys have said the insurance industry uses a "delay, deny, defend" tactic to withhold health care services.

Jailed for using words to describe what insurance companies do?

Judge is trying to fill their year-end quota.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 74 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Looks like a lot of us are going to jail over the next 4 years.

[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well yeah, those camps won't fill themselves!

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 69 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nothing like jail time to radicalized someone more. Judge is playing 5d cheese by providing motivation.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Judge is playing 5d cheese...

Man, cheese with 2 extra dimensions has to be really delicious.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Freedom of speech, as long as it's completely meaningless.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 64 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm sure the "Free Speech" people are up in arms about this, right?

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[–] ConHoliousDonFrankle@lemmy.world 64 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol, catch phrase or actual corporate practice? Because quoting a company memo to said company is apparently a threat.

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"You people are next" does seem pretty threat-ish, however:

After being charged with threats to conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism, a judge set Boston's bond at $100,000.

That is completely out of touch with what happened. "You people are next" not an act of terrorism.

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why? She was delayed, denied, and deposed. If it's so bad then jail the insurer.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 50 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Delay, deny, and depose the FBI. The FBI isn't acting like this during a Trump presidency, this is the most lenient it gets at, during a democratic presidency. With a Trump presidency, Americans should familiarize themselves with current Russian society to know what they should expect for its future. Fuck your messed up police state, Americans, and fuck a constitution that only seems to be propaganda bullshit that is too much for the FBI to live by.

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[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This will definitely ease tensions among the masses and rouse support for the Healthcare execs lmao

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Her expression says I can't believe this shit. I can't, either.

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ve heard worse death threats in Fortnite.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago (8 children)
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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

They think they're making an example. That this will have a chilling effect.

They're wrong. All this is going to do is radicalize even more people. As it should.

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