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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 66 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Having the Baby.

The budding love story is a go to for writers. Everyone loves it, and makes you feel emotions when they finally get together. Problem is, it has a natural path.

2 to 3 seasons to get together. 1 season of new bliss, 1 season of ups and downs, ending with a marriage proposal. 1 season of engagement ending in wedding. 1 season of new marriage stuff. Now what?

Married couples are boring. So what do we do now? Now it's time for the baby.

And babies are horrible on TV. People watch TV to escape reality, not hear a screaming child. So the dream couple has a baby and it's so tiring and so much work, but suddenly the show starts focusing on other characters, and then suddenly you know it's over.

The office was famous for this one. Everyone loves Jim and Pam, until the wedding, then who cares. They tried to force those feelings again with Andy and Erin, but you just can't.

Parks and rec luckily took a different route with Andy and April, but you can tell they were teetering on the edge, and in the final season everyone had kids anyway.

HIMYM had a worse approach because it wasn't that Ted was on the path, but rather Lily and Marshall already were and so kids came in earlier, and again change the entire show.

The list goes on, it is an official trope now

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Parenting portrayal in HIMYM was natalist propaganda, Lily and Marshall's kid was maintenance free and they continued to live their old life.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A similar red flag, introducing a new, younger "cute" kid character because the previous cute kids aged out of the category.

For some reason the Cosby show was the first thing to mind there. Move out of the way Rudy!

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think Modern Family was the exception to this, at least with Mitchell & Cam. Gloria getting pregnant just had vibes of Married with Children when Peggy got pregnant and it felt like the start of the end.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

It worked with Modern Family because the show's entire premise was about Families and when that's the show's premise then the reverse is true, Families without children are boring lol

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[–] Shawdow194@fedia.io 57 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

When a character that has fully and officially died or been wrote off, returns in some deus ex machina style lazy way

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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Celebrity appearances.

Not to say the show goes downhill because of it. But I feel as if it's often used as a crutch to attract more viewers.

[–] Darkly@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

*screams in Ed sheeran on GOT"

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"We want to appeal to a wider audience that's not the typical X fan".

It's usually code for "stakeholders/execs want infinite growth, and we are too burnt out/creatively bankrupt to fight back. So, enjoy the change to another cookie cutter slop content".

Some shows even start out there already. Massive red flag.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I would say that most shows start out there already these days. There's a whole bunch of boxes that have to be ticked off, instead of just creating an organic storyline with realistic and natural groups of people.

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[–] aquinteros@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

the show catches up with the books

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When netflix picks it up and adds new seasons (using untalented writers instead of the ones that made the show good)

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Netflix will revive shows after the original networks didn't order more seasons. In other words, the show was already long-dead...

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can't wait for the Netflix seasons of Futurama after it gets cancelled again.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 7 points 2 weeks ago

Futurama ended after 5 seasons

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 23 points 2 weeks ago

When one or more of the original main character actors leave the show. They'll either introduce new characters to replace the originals or refocus the show on some of the existing, less-important ones. Sometimes a show can make it work, and occasionally you end up with something better, but it usually indicates the show has one, maybe two seasons of life left.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Fonzarelli jumping over a shark while water skiing in a leather jacket.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

That's why some people will say "that show waterskied in a leather jacket " to mean that it's passed it's due date.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

The shark jumping episode of Happy Days was season 5 episode 3. The series went on for 11 seasons, meaning there were more episodes after jumping the shark then there were before.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Starting to answer backstory questions no one really wanted to know. For example, I knew Seinfeld was running out the clock as soon as they gave Kramer a first name.

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[–] igorette@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] jonc211@programming.dev 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

time travel in general, for me... unless the show is specifically about time travel.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

when oliver shows up

seriously, one that really bothers me was Psych. my all-time fav buddy comedy. when the primary premise of the show is no longer on display, its time to wrap it up.

as the series wore on they relied less and less on 'shawns gift', and the magic was gone. they moved away from made the show great.. a guy succeeding with a unique talent despite himself. a comedic-ally driven contemporary sherlock holmes trope.

the subsequent movies doubled down on not using his talents and so they are even worse than the final years of the show.

[–] ArtieShaw@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yes. The Oliver/Poochie character.

ETA: Or Scrappie Fucking Doo

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago

Season 3 of a show that wasn’t originally planned to be 3+ seasons is usually around where it starts to drop off. There are exceptions, but I’ve seen several shows where S1 is fantastic, S2 is good, S3 is okay at best, and S4+ is utter trash.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Clip Show! Nothing says "We're out of ideas" like a rehash of the currently available greatest hits.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Community had clips from "previous episodes" that never existed in their bottle episode.

Most of the time I hate clip shows, but that time was okay.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Community was great at simultaneously lampshading, satirizing, and paying homage all at the same time. Abed was the perfect vehicle for that sort of meta-self-referential nihilism. Plus the entire cast was lightning in a bottle.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Except for Pierce.

He was semen in several bottles.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Clip shows are usually about “we didn’t adequately budget and need to make an episode using only one set and one day of shooting.”

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Original writer/creator/actor leaves the show. There can be a lot of reasons why they leave, and sometimes it's a really good reason, but the show almost always suffers.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A new kid is added the show.

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[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When they do the black and white episode that is from like the 1940s

[–] DerPlouk@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I wish they did like in the 1940s... Instead, current directors cannot shoot proper B&W and just rely on hackneyed gimmicks (I mean stuff like using the overly contrasted shade of a Venetian blind, smoke going through a ray of light, ...). There is always too much white and too much black, which kills the range in between, unlike old movies and TV shows which are made of shades of grey where everything can be seen clearly; settings are not adapted either; anyway they have no idea of what they are shooting, they simply shoot in colour and then remove colours in post-processing like they do usually when they apply their stupid colour filter (blue-brown = Scandinavian police drama, lovat green = Germany, yellow = Mediterranean, blue = techno-thriller, etc.). Any low-rated chain-produced family entertainment TV series from the 50s and 60s, filmed by a random director from back then, exhibits a better B&W picture than those modern arty attempts.

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[–] oyo@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

Flashbacks.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

6 seasons and a movie though

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[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

A character explaining that justice is following your gut rather than the law while being some sort part of justice system.
I stopped many show because of that.
That is also why I loved what B99 did so much.

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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Romance between two characters that seems to come out of nowhere because the main characters have already gotten together.

[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't usually watch bad TV but one thing I do notice is that if a show doesn't have a showrunner, or has almost as many writers as it does episodes, it won't end well.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Altered Carbon suffered greatly because of this. Some episodes are outstanding, and the show overall was good, but because there are a bunch of different writers and directors, there's an inconsistency that is off-putting. It really showed through the second half of the second season, after his sister showed up. A previously pretty interesting story became super cringe and repetitive.

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[–] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

When the writers start to lean too hard on character shticks.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

The narrator asks you to tell your friends to watch the show

they didnt

When there’s a big shakeup in writers.

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