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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 118 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Whenever I think about the diamond market I think about the episode of the Twilight Zone where gold becomes worthless in the future because it's manufacturable.

As evidence by the diamond market, even if we could manufacture gold (somehow) even higher in quality than the purest gold available naturally, people would still want the, objectively worse, natural stuff, because for some reason the human rights violations that go into getting it makes it more valuable.

TL;DR: it's the child labor that makes it special

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Hehe yeah, "Sure, you could buy perfect diamonds grown in lab conditions that are way prettier than anything we could offer for way cheaper, or you could buy our authentically dirty or broken diamonds to -prove- you paid way more money to anyone that looks close enough to notice. Won't they be jealous of how rich you were".

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

The special ingredient is human suffering.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah it's the same as the people who are being oppressed by the corporatocracy voting for an oppressor because they just want to feel powerful by stepping on someone else. The "Slugs for Salt" group doesn't care if they are salted as long as the snails beneath them get salted and they get to feel like it's them doing the salting.

[–] brian@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think one of the most common talking points against lab grown is that they are too perfect. "It's the imperfections that are beautiful" or something like that.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That sentiment they manufactured is exactly what I was, apparently inexpertly, lampooning.

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

In a certain way I even agree with the sentiment. Of the crystals I have grown myself, the perfect ones are kinda nice, but do look fake/more like plastic. Those that are nearly perfect but have visible impurities (not to much, not to little) are far more visually pleasing to me.

The big BUT is that this in no way is a reason to support blood diamonds. If aesthetic is more worthy to you than human rights, than you are a villain, it's that simple.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago

You can make diamonds. The diamond companies convinced everyone they were inferior.

I do think the western world likes to support child labor. While else would your iPhone be so expensive? It is carefully assembled by child hands.

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[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don’t marry women too materialistic to accept this, loving diamonds is a big red flag imo

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Meh, I wouldn't say that, but loving diamonds after learning how that market works and the bullshit around it? Definitely an orange flag

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Eh, I'm not sure I would say that. Someone can love/appr ciate and want something even knowing that procuring the thing has ethical problems. Desiring something isn't the same as being okay with the problems that come with acquiring it. It's the being okay with procuring a diamond despite the ethical problems and bullshit that would be a massive red flag to me.

For myself, I'd be having serious second thoughts about a relationship with a person who felt an expensive ring was somehow necessary. But merely wanting it, particularly if out of a sense of tradition or symbolism rather than as some silly signal of wealth, wouldn't perturb me.

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[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Moissanite: chemical formula SiC, not pure carbon. 60/100

Lonsdaleite: chemical formula C, pure carbon, hexagonal crystal structure, naturally created by meteorite impacts, synthetic versions are harder than diamonds. Awesome/100.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Those semi rare gems are the best.

As pretty as the ruby/diamond/emrald stones, but without the absurd costs.

[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Moissanite has better sparkle and fire than diamond. It literally looks better! And as the article says, it’s mostly about the setting more than the stone

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[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Moissanite is the absolute best.

[–] swab148@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

I bought my mom two sets of moissanite jewelry for generic winter holiday times this year! Matching necklace and earrings!

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Moissanite is extra sparkly compared to diamonds too

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tough shit she still wants that drill bit for Christmas

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Oh she'll get drilled for a bit, that's for sure

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Am girl

Just grow em in a lab. Dirt diamonds are for boomers.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 35 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Give her industrial diamonds. Something with a practical use.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Industrial drill bits are a girl's best friend.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Anything is a dildo if you try hard enough?

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trying so hard that they need diamonds

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[–] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I took my now wife window shopping for rings when we were getting close to engagement time so that I'd know what she would want. It was clear that the answer was gonna be yes no matter what, but I knew she'd have a ring preference anyway. She saw prices and explicitly said that she'd like white sapphire on sterling silver. I found a bridal set that she adores which very much did not cost a month or two of salary.

Because we didn't blow a ton of money on engagement/wedding shit, we've had much more resources to support the marriage itself. I've heard of regular everyday people spending $3-4k on a fucking ring. We spent 9 days in a few different places in Spain for about that cost instead lol.

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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 19 points 2 weeks ago

There are a lot of cool minerals out there that don't make you go bankrupt if you purchase them.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My wife's ring: Rose gold with moonstone inlays

My ring: Black ceramic with dyed dinosaur bone

Gold/diamond is so fucking old school boring, you know?

Sure, neither of us can ever resize our rings, but I have a dino bone ring so like, whatever

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

Great question, I can't ever remember because my wife got it for me and I never saw the actual information about the thing, I could probably ask her to find the original blacksmiths shop and get the info

I think it's one of the b ones, it's a super common fossil to find in Wyoming or whatever state is known for shit tons of fossils everywhere, I'm very high rn and can't remember shit

[–] trigg@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is an act of terrorism against OP's wallet

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Exactly, just get her some lab grown ones. She won't know the difference. It's okay even if she does, because this website sells them pretty well.

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[–] ThermonuclearCactus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"But diamonds are forever!" No they're not, in fact, they're actually flammable. *

*in an environment of pure oxygen

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 9 points 2 weeks ago

Someone watched NileRed

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 15 points 2 weeks ago

looks sadly at his angle grinder blade for concrete

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"ill buy you a diamond if you buy me an equally-expensive gaming pc"

"never mind"

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[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 14 points 2 weeks ago

In case anyone needs to hear it: big red flag for lots of reasons. Don’t put yourself through a relationship like that. Find someone who wants you for you.

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Luckily my girlfriend is on board with this

[–] shani66@ani.social 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, they are ugly too. Get a real stone, like charoite or iolite. Oh, maybe moonstone. Anything but basic bitch clear rock.

Basic bitches: Can use their murder rock to scratch glass, I guess.

Bad bitches: Can evolve any Clefairy they come across at a moments notice.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Can't I just punch myself in the face to demonstrate my love and call it a proposal instead?

Use that money to improve the honeymoon instead of an artificially expensive rock?

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

No, because the wealth and status on display is exactly the point for some women. Especially with social media it becomes a competition to get the most. It's honestly not that far from how some men really like to show off their expensive car as a sign of success.

[–] TheSealStartedIt@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

There are synthetic diamonds, also used as jewelry.

[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Get her welsh gold instead

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[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Just buy the fucking fake diamonds 90% the same, but less fucking slave labor and 1/100th of the price

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago

They are actually better as they are more pure

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