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Summary

Despite Donald Trump’s promise to avoid Social Security cuts, recent signals from the new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, suggest reductions may be forthcoming.

The department, aimed at streamlining federal spending, has sparked concern among advocates worried about potential impacts on the program.

Trump’s mixed messaging and DOGE’s focus on cost-cutting have intensified scrutiny as officials prepare policy recommendations.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 99 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Thats our money. We paid into it. They are stealing from us.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is the correct take away. They’re using it to fund further tax cuts to the wealthy.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder if we can sue them for taking this from us. I mean, I been paying into that for twelve fucken years. A lot of others have put a lot more in.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Two wealthy billionaire immigrants hired to pilfer American livelihood because the Government borrowed and bet from our Social Security— and lost the money. Now they see no other way out of insolvency.

Certainly Elon and Vivek aren’t going to start paying their fair share of taxes, so it’s steal from the poor and give to the rich.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Send them back to where they come from

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Putin’s vajay-jay

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All rich people steal. This is nothing new.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Stealing is how the very richest got rich.

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 45 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Wait, is he using his kid as a human shield now? Not one time has he been holding a child now suddenly it's part of his wardrobe. Lmfao.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, I'm trying to find the video of the cartoon where the bad guy is using a hostage as a shield and he's perfectly moving them around to track the good guys gun. Was it Venture Brothers?

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, he's a real piece of shit

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

You wouldn't hit a guy holding a kid, would you?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 40 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Go ahead. Fuck with people's money, or expectations of money. See how far that gets you. Culture wars are one thing, and don't affect everyone, but cold hard cash is very real to most people. I fucking dare them.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 weeks ago

We’re starving and CEOs are back on the menu.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Go ahead and dare and then die angrily in a gutter just like they want you to. Americans don't do shit about anything.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey if I'm dying in a gutter I'll have nothing left to lose. Just like Mr. Adjuster.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

The bro of all bros. Man I wish I could be on that jury.

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[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It gets so tiring to hear over and over and over again that the only way to solve the budget problems is through austerity. You know there is another side that can help with reducing a deficit called taxes? Specifically taxing billionaires. But it seems that only the poor must suffer when making things more efficient.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Taxing billionaires makes sense and would work well to solve all sorts of problems. But the billionaires own the government and the politicians.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I love the idea of the "austerity" of billionaires being cut down to size and having to live on "only" $999 million as Bernie proposed - tax anything over that at 100%.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Time to start stocking up on riot supplies.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Like anyone will even care about what’s happening to them?

Just look at recent surveys, where economic sentiment is basically political opinion now, not how people are actually fairing: https://www.axios.com/2024/12/06/trump-economy-democrats-republicans-inflation

The metric was not like that before.

But we are in an era where influencers, feeds and whims trump reality and fact. I thought COVID-19 proved that, but it’s pretty much irrefutable now, and people (on average) are going to care less about what’s physically taken away than how some angry influencer makes them feel about it.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe people will start to pay attention when their retirements are stolen from them.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A government being "led" by fucking internet trolls. This is what the world has come to.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

Where's Mario Mangione to take care of the problem?

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago

Fine. But pay me back what I paid into it the past 30 years along with its gains.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

They can do it and get sued, the fact is people who paid into it expecting to make use of the program were stolen from if they cut it. The govt. needs to stop being a bitch and tax the wealthy.

[–] Etterra 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good luck with that under the Orange Idiotn and his shit chugging sycophants. As a disabled person who needs SSDI to live, I'd join that lawsuit in a nanosecond.

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[–] oyo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup, it's such a lie that SS and Medicare are socialist "entitlements." We're entitled to them because we fucking paid for them.

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Imminent domain and civil asset forfeiture are the government stealing your shit and telling you to get fucked. You think it won't be the same for social security?

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

Go ahead, ya swarmy fucks. You think a CEO denying healthcare is the last high profile death, take the last of everything, from those who have so little, and no bunker or hired goons will save you. Mark my words, when backed against a wall, they will lose. History has proven that over and over again.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Rape and pillage. This is all these human pieces of absolute garbage know.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You fuckers got Musk as a politician now.

He’s even posing for pictures with his kid. The only one dumb enough still to not fucking hate him.

America is a meme state at this point

[–] Laser@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

He’s even posing for pictures with his kid. The only one dumb enough still to not fucking hate him.

Oh, the child has nothing to do with posing, he's just afraid for his life since the UHC CEO got shot and hopes having a child around is a detriment

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

That's a pretty Brian Thompson thing to do.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So they charge us for social securityin our paychecks for our entire lives, just to take our money away before we can retire, and just keep what they took.

[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

The writing has been on the wall for a while now. All retirement planning I've done is based on the assumption that SSA won't be around by the time I retire. The fact that we can't even remove the taxable maximum to retain some degree of financial solvency is proof enough.

I think the most likely course of action is that we will get some portion of our contributions back, but not the full amount. I just hope that they don't raise the retirement age so much to try to retain the illusion of being able to get a full payout. I'd rather get a fraction of my contributions back at 67 than need to risk living to a much older age but receiving full benefits.

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh, I don’t even know how to feel now.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why not? You've presumably been paying into a system your whole working life that is going to be stolen from you. You don't know how to feel about that?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Always the same:

Shitty thing they’re rumored to be planning to do: oh, we’re not going to do that. 6 months later, press finds out they’re planning to do just that.

Good thing they say they’re going to do: never happens. They’ll keep saying they’re gonna, though. Planning to make a plan to plan the good thing.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder if Trump is going to pay back the $1.3 trillion that W "borrowed" from the fund?

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can I opt out of paying SS taxes? Haha.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Depends, what's your net worth?

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I just hope they do it fast enough for my parents to feel the acute effects... I don't know any other way to possibly snap them out of this.

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 9 points 2 weeks ago

We all know they will just blame the left somehow.

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