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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 149 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (37 children)

Reminder: "US bad" is not a valid argument for "Russia good"

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 32 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, it's literally non sequitur. And a very popular propaganda move: [country A] is good because [country B] is worse. In fact, it usually is not even relatively good if there's a need for such 'argument'

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

*confused tankie noises

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 145 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)
[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 107 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (33 children)

(in a similar vein)

There is a third choice, where you say both are bad (ie. anarchists and pure marxists). But most people on lemmy.ML are Marxist Leninists (ML) who simp for authotarian states that call themselves socialist, like Russia, China, and North Korea.

[–] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

russia does not even pretend to be socialist

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 32 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Stalin says to Kropotkin: "The difference between us is that you're an aristocrat while I'm from the working class."
Kropotkin answer: "True, but we also have something in common: We are both class traitors."

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
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[–] regdog@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Every time this gets reposted I need to point out that it is spelled: "You are not an anti-imperialist"

English is stupid.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

They're just fascists.

[–] obre@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

The tankies are out in full force in this thread.

[–] istdaslol@feddit.org 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Man, why did I stumble on this thread after the tankies got deleted

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 18 points 2 weeks ago

Simping for any government leadership is just gross. These people don’t actually care about protecting the working class; they just want power, money, and recognition. As soon as you put a human into that role, they corrupt in one way or another. It’s why I clarify that I support the struggling working class under any ruler. The fight is always about them and ensuring they have human rights and a right to self-determination.

Every person I’ve met in my lifetime that lived under communism had nothing good to say about it, and they were all working class. Some pasty white dudes in America don’t know shit about that and never will. They get into a fantasy loop because living under capitalism fucking sucks, and dreaming about something perceived as better is understandable.

I recommend people read Marx and keep trying to unite the working class. Take the good pieces and stop idolizing people. As soon as you idolize a person, you are incapable of being able to identify when they do or say something terrible.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Sorry for your notifications OP, I went through the same thing when I posted this here.

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