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Even in bike racing the optimal form ends being to become a train. A peloton is just a train made up of bikes.
And then imagine if instead of wheels a bicycle was on a track with even greater reduced rolling resistance than skinny overinflated tires and didn't require lumbar strength for balance.
This is just the AI bias showing through: It's all that training.
Nice pun, I think you railed it
They were certainly on the right track
So what you're saying is the optimal form is some kind of crab train?
Hey there 👋, I know you mean well by that comment, like I get it, I do. ☺️ But I just wanted to let you know:
THERE HAVE BEEN ZERO STUDIES DONE ON THE SAFETY OF CRAB TRAINS.
ZERO.
But despite that, they are gaining widespread support, and now even people like yourself are calling them "optimal."
Listen: Someone I know lost an arm in the pincer mechanism of one of these trains. More work needs to be done before we can consider them safe, nevermind "optimal". Don't buy into the techbro BS.
Friends don't let friends crab train.
Hey, when the train needs blood the train gets blood
Choo choo Charlie intensifies
Do you hear that, Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of inevitability.
the last time I gave factorio a serious run was waaaay back in its beta, before it was even finished and had an end game.
its just gotten so complicated since then that I get overwhelmed, especially when you start to scale up and realize you fucked something up and have to undo an entire day of shit to move something 2 tiles or something.
ELEVATED RAILS my BELOVED ❤️
Minimum rolling friction by having hard wheels on a hard surface. Minimum wind resistance by making it long and narrow. Minimum stop time by having big doors.
BAM: train.
Sharing because I was delighted to learn this: trees are also an example of convergent evolution. I'm personally rooting for us to become trees. Pun intended.
That seems unfairly obvious, but I certainly didn't consider it before.
Okay so now we are looking at some kind of tree-crab-train as the crown of creation, am I understanding this correctly?
Even the slime mould knows it: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/slime-mould-attacks-simulates-tokyo-rail-network
I know it's a shitpost, but i hate that people interpret carcinisation as a crab being the ultimate piece of evolution.
When learning evolution like algorithms in computer science, one of the first things you learn is strategies to not get stuck in locally optimal solutions (solutions that seem the best when you look at other nearby solutions, but are worse than other solutions if you allow your algorithm to look further away).
Crabs seem like that, it's just an easy defensive evolution that then stagnates in a form that kind of works. Seeing how many crabs we eat, and how few crabs eat us, it's obvious that crabs aren't the actual pinnacle of evolution, just some locally optimal solution that evolution tends to get stuck in :p.
I understand your point but some of history's most publicized and powerful figures have been consumed by crabs. Amelia Earhart and countless other well known examples through history show the crab threat is much more present and real than you imply.
This is why I stopped shitposting, too many sweats
We will see (or not) who has the last laugh, crabs or homo sapiens sapiens?
Like came back in a million years. Bet crabs are going to be still around while we'll already extinct.
It's gonna be homo sapiens unless crabs evolve laughter.
Well, the automotive industry has been working on making self driving a thing, and I recall when they first tried to tackle the problem of lane keeping.
The first proposal was to embed magnets or similar into the road surface that the car could have a set of sensors for to determine if it was drifting left or right in its lane.
Motherfucker, that's just a virtual track for your dumb four-wheeled mini-train.
It didn't catch on, but AFAIK it was implemented in small areas as a trial and it performed adequately given the technology of the time.
So I'm out here going, why the fuck are we pretending that vehicles are not just rail-free personal trains?
The first proposal was to embed magnets or similar into the road surface that the car could have a set of sensors for to determine if it was drifting left or right in its lane.
That's a thing for forklifts since what, a century? Even better, they use a wire with a set frequency instead of magnets, it's called wire guidance system.
That's the end game for self-driving cars. They can drive close enough together to draft, efficiency goes way up. If a problem happens ahead, they communicate back so that pileups don't happen.
Train cars are crabs. They've got an exoskeleton, they're squat bodied, many legged, and have pincers on either side. All they have to do is start moving that body plan around some and they will be crabs.
Ha! I was thinking along these lines reading science fiction the other day. In every novel where stuff has to get moved overland, it's always a train. No matter their tech level, trains are the simplest, most efficient solution.
the Dutch train system is so incredibly cool, you can get from one end to another end of the 'main' part of the Netherlands in an hour and its so easy to just get to any station anywhere and then you can just go everywhere for so incredibly cheap. Literally the only thing you need to get anywhere in the Netherlands is a bike and something to buy train tickets with. You dont even need to buy tickets, you can just tap your debit card on the gates in the entrance station and then tap it when you exit and it just handles everything for you
There's two kinds of ground transportation: off-roading, and should be a train.
I also really like that every time I see some dumb idea to "improve vehicles" there a long comment chain improving it even further into a train.
Well if every vehicle becomes autonomous then isn't that just a large scaled high speed train?
Yes. That is the point. Trains are optimal.
With how bad semis rut the road I've been wanting to see them with retractable train wheels on the back
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermodal_container this is kinda the same idea.. same container can be transferred from ship to rail to truck