NHTSA recently published a proposed rule taking on pedestrian safety, specifically calling out this problem. Expect it to be killed early next year.
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Oh you mean the new kid regulations requiring stilts and helmets to bring your kids outside? We probably also need new construction regulations to required bollards along the side of the property facing the street so as to prevent damage to trucks if the house happens to get too close.
There's a link to the proposed rule in the first paragraph. Note the diagrams on page 35, page 51, then page 84. They're working on it. NHTSA is slow, and they won't be allowed to finish.
You can comment here if you'd like to actually do something besides be snarky on a website nobody reads.
In other news, NHTSA with the help of major manufacturers has determined the typical height of a ten year old is eight feet tall. Personal vehicles will be mandated to be able to see people of this height over the hood
Just gonna keep on posting this
I'm surprised a school bus isn't on this list
Looking at normal buses, the driver is sat high up, right at the front and with a clear view in front of them. And it's so weird the US school buses just ignore that design and are shaped like an old truck.
shaped like an old truck.
Up until recently, a good chunk of school buses were trucks, mainly based on the E/F350 - F650 platforms (or 3500 - 6500 if using GMC). Recently though, bus manufacturers are switching to internally designed platforms and the result is more cab-over buses and the ones that aren't have a more swept hood (look at the Blue Bird Vision for an example). However, small buses are still based on truck platforms (E/F350, or GMC 3500)
I swear GM and Ford are competing with each other on blind spot length
I like how they put a golf cart in there.
That's a tuktuk
Used kid?
Not everyone can afford a new one bro. Don't sound so put off about it.
This truck is taller than a used kid (10 years old).
Well there's your problem: you've got a used kid. New kids are, on average, about 5'9" - plenty tall to compete with today's civilian tanks.
Donnie Wahlberg was a New kid on the block????? Wow. I had no idea!
I'm used to the normal transition between toddler pupae to child-like human. That's when I though children were brand spanking new.
bruh… a used kid
But can we talk about how comically awful those tiny-ass wheels look that raised truck
Looney-toons-ahh-truck, smh
Here's another such killer truck just steps from the previous one in the same parking area.
You know that kid is just like "Mom, can we just go home? No I don't wanna stand in front of any more trucks! Mom, stop being weird."
I recall about 10 years ago, a guy at a shop i used to work at bought a GMC6500. I'm 6'2" and could easily walk under the side mirrors.
I noticed the truck was parked in the same spor for about a month. I asked some of the guys I worked with why it hadn't moved. Apparently, the owner was getting into it when he fell out backward, injuring himself.
They don't make kids like they used to. Can you imagine that a brand new kid in 2024 is much shorter than this 10 year old used kid!
I’ve seen one that had a front camera specifically added so you can see what’s in front of you for parking the monster. It looks like the dumbest design that’s just screaming how impractical it is for both safety and driving.
Like, maybe if you need a front facing camera to use this thing, maybe this limited visibility is also inappropriate for driving, no?
A 2005 Ford Focus is my kid deadening tool of choice.
The perfect height to deliver devastating head and chest injuries. It’s almost like they deliberately designed this thing to kill kids.
Not to mention it's so high up and the hood is so massive, you can't see the ground for like 10 feet in front of it.
And 30lb e-scooters that can fit under your desk are the problem! /s
In all seriousness, is it any wonder why pedestrians get murdered at crosswalks? The drivers of those tanks can't see anything below the dash!
Anyday now American kids will start wearing a big pole with a high viz contraction at the top whenever they leave the house.
You can buy a tank cheaper in USA than you can buy a sedan in Turkey.
By tank I mean a tank. A real tank. Used by Israel and Syria in the seven day war.
Yeah.
I guarantee that tank has better visibility than the vehicle pictured
2016 kia soul, it's named "sir-hops-a-lot" because the gas petal is sensitive and someone who hasn't driven it will 'hop' (also my love of frogs and that it's green).
(picture is a bit inaccurate due to the year)
It was like ~$11.5k and we got it from a pretty small car dealership which is family owned that doesn't squabble about prices. What's on the website is what you get.
I love my little frogmobile to death :3
Imagine trying to work on that thing. You need a step ladder to open the hood.