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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 159 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tldr: Verisign, the registrar of the .com tld. They have been jacking up domain prices.

[–] whithom 81 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Year,Wholesale Price (USD)

2012,$7.85
2013,$7.85
2014,$7.85
2015,$7.85
2016,$7.85
2017,$7.85
2018,$7.85
2019,$7.85
2020,$7.85
2021,$8.39
2022,$8.97
2023,$9.59
2024,$10.26
[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, by percentage that's:

2021,6.9%
2022,6.9%
2023,6.9%
2024,7.0%

I'm not sure those raises are justified, but we did just go through a period of high inflation, and even a business like Verisign has employees and other expenses that got more expensive. I'll be interested to see where this story goes.

[–] Steve@communick.news 62 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Verisign is a government granted monopoly who's primary job is to maintain a database of who owns what domains. That job is largely automated. The actual end user sales are delegated to dealers; Verisign doesn't even do much of that. I'd be surprised if they had 500 employees.

All they really need to do is run a database server. Not even a big one, like Google copying the entire public internet.

They get fees from every domain every year. The servers get cheaper and more efficient every year. I'd be stunned if there was any reasonable excuse for these price increases.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

any reasonable excuse for these price increases.

Profit.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 month ago

Skimming through their financial reports it seems they needed to the money to finance share a buyback program. So they are helping the ~~rich people money~~ economy.

[–] Steve@communick.news 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 month ago

Derp, I forgot to add that in before posting.

It was going to be a big long gripe about profit seeking bullshit... but then I'd just be preaching to the choir ;-)

[–] slartibartfast@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What did they cost in the early 00’s? I vaguely remember it being a lot compared to these prices.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago

IIRC, when Verisign had a registrar monopoly, they were charging $35/yr with 2 years up front.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's more than a 30% increase!

[–] whithom 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] whithom 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They won’t do what I really want: .d

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] whithom 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It would be weird if it did because .d means directory

[–] whithom 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When does .d mean directory?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] whithom 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But TLDs are not “UNIX”

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I never said they were. I just said .d means directory in another context

[–] whithom 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, a .com is a CP/M binary file introduced in ~1975, whereas the TLD wasn’t introduced until 1985. So, put that in your pipe and smoke it. 😝

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah that's weird too. So would a TLD of .txt or .doc or can you imagine a TLD of .html?

They're all weird just to various degrees.

Why would you want .d as a TLD? To me it would just be weird and confusing.

[–] whithom 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

.a, .b, .c…

Why are they limiting us? Seems like ICANN has an unfair position.

Someone should start a competing dns that allows domain registrations with single letter domains.

That’s kind of how .onion works (for dns)

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You haven't answered why somebody would want these confusing tlds

[–] whithom 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s not confusing. It’s just a tld.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] whithom 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A url is a url. If your only concern is that it might be confusing to the user, then we shouldn’t have TLDs at all.

googIe.com and google.com are different. What now? Force serif fonts?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Literally insane take

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Also, domain names used to be free.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 63 points 1 month ago

ICANN signed an agreement with VeriSign in 2020, sanctioning the maximum allowable price increases in return for $20 million over a five-year period. Thus, allege Warren and Nadler, “Verisign and ICANN may have a collusive relationship.”

Yeah that seems a lil messed up.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Maintaining a single tld is a part time job at best.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

ICANN jacking tld prices has been a problem so long people complained about it the first time ICANN was created to overtake IANA.

Not only is this well known, it's literally displayed for everyone to see with registrars fighting over domains with ads and people buying cheap alternatives tlds.

[–] would_be_appreciated@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

The entire business would be such a trivial government operation, and we wouldn't have to lose money to corporate greed.