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[–] b34k@lemmy.world 176 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Petting a blue ring octopus could definitely be a once in a lifetime event!

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 37 points 1 month ago

Well they were planning on Effing it, so maybe they were wearing "protection".

[–] 50MYT@aussie.zone 158 points 1 month ago (14 children)

The bite actually doesn't kill you, it just shuts down your nervous system so you can't breath.

People if given cpr immediately (kind of need someone to know it's what bit you) till it wears off / get on a ventilator will live.

I remember reading about someone who survived. They got but, and a team started doing cpr. The only issue was his eyes were open the entire time on a hot sunny day. So he was blind after the damage the hot sun did.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 117 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The bite actually doesn't kill you, it just shuts down your nervous system so you can't breath.

I feel that's like saying "getting mauled by a bear doesn't kill you, it just causes major lacerations so all your blood leaks out". Technically sure, but it seems like a bit of a pedantic distinction...

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 60 points 1 month ago

Reminds me of people who insisted COVID didn't kill anyone because it was the symptoms that actually killed people

[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

You’re not totally wrong but some things are not so easily treated as with rescue breathing. This is the same problem with any paralytic agent (e.g. botulism) is that the mechanism of death is suffocation since you can’t breathe. But from a rescue standpoint its really easy to breathe for someone whereas its not easy to stop multiple lacerations leading to exanguination and I think that is the point they were making is that this could be a survivable event if a rescuer is nearby.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was thinking "it's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end."

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's not the sudden stop at the end that kills you. It's the different times at which parts of you stop.

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[–] bisby@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Getting bit by a venomous snake in Australia and you're blood starts to disassemble itself. The only counter is antivenom or die. Your blood breaking down is what kills you. And there is no way to separate the bite from that.

Being able to counter the venom in such a simple way is what makes it different. You can logically break it down into steps that are separable.

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[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Breathing - famous for being optional for those that would like to live.

Yes, there have only been around 3 people killed by them (largely because they're shy, aquatic, and somewhat uncommon), and intervention can be made to stop them from killing you, but they're one of the most toxic animals on the planet, and are unquestionably deadly.

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[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Blind as permanently blind?

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Correct, nothing can move, not your lungs, not your eye lids, nothing. So he went very blind from staring at the sun for 30mins straight while people did cpr until ambulance arrived

[–] 50MYT@aussie.zone 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yep.

They couldn't close their eyelids.

Better blind than dead.

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[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

wears off

I think it is in the duration of hours, rather than minutes before wearing off.

So yes, a team in rotation is required for CPR, or one triathalon participant.

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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 122 points 1 month ago
[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 95 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If not friend, why friend shaped?

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

You see, it's not.

[–] crackhead87@lemmy.myserv.one 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I didn't read 'Effing SC'. I was confused as to why they're cursing the petting zoo.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe because they’re trying to get people to pet a blue-ringed octopus?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago

Once in a lifetime. Probably the crowning achievement

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[–] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I grew up on the East Coast of the United States. MD and FL to be specific. Going to the beach was a regular thing in our household, whether it was the Chesapeake Bay or the Atlantic Ocean somewhere in West Palm Beach. My grandad has a house on the actual bay. Grew up spending every family gathering there. The adults would visit/catch up, and us kids would be in the water. I was NEVER scared of the water.

Then, as a young adult, Im sitting at an inprocessing for a base in Okinawa, Japan, and the briefer is going over local hazards in the region.

I had never heard of the Blue Ringed Octopus before.

And from that moment on, I became terrified of things in the ocean.

My husband always laughs about that story because its rare that they even make it into the waters around Oki, but that genuinely really was the moment that my brain was like "Omg, you have to worry about more than sharks in the ocean."

[–] Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The ocean is beyond beautiful. Spent some time on the shores of NC and VA...

Started studying marine biology due to the oceans vast amount of mystery...Now it's "The ocean is beyond beautiful and just as deadly."

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The ocean is indeed beyond beautiful. I'm not a marine biologist, but I went to Jamaica for my honeymoon and truly appreciated it there. A lot of my time was spent just ... Admiring the water.

I remember a Jamaican local commenting that she'd seen the ocean around the USA in movies and wouldn't swim in the ocean around the country based on that.

Also, I got punched in the face by a fish while I was down there.

Beautiful, though.

[–] edgesmash@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Also, I got punched in the face by a fish while I was down there.

Please elaborate.

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 1 month ago

Has the "swim with the box jellies" experience reopened since the accident... and the other accident.. and those 3 accidents that happened before that?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh man I would love to live in a town called Effing. If only it wasn't in South Carolina.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Shame they felt the need to censor the name of the petting zoo.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago

Well they didn't want people getting the wrong idea.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Yeah that might be the best of your lifetime as it might be drastically shortened

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago
[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I honestly want to know the story behind this picture. Maybe their venom glands can be removed? A quick Wikipedia search showed that this one isn't brightening up its blue rings like they do when they feel threatened, and that generally you can survive if a respirator is available, but that doesn't seem like enough to risk holding one..

[–] Akuji@leminal.space 32 points 1 month ago

I honestly want to know the story behind this picture.

Take it with a grain of salt: I remember reading years ago that the person handling the octopus was suffering from degenerative disease, and losing his fight against liver cancer. So, he wasn't fazed about the prospect of a fatal bite.

[–] WilliamKerman@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 month ago

If I remember correctly, the guy holding the octopus had terminal cancer and was traveling around doing dangerous things before he died.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's also a video of a woman holding one not realizing what it is. "my first reaction was just "pick it up"

Meanwhile, in Mexico, an octopus swam near my brother and I and we both got the fuck out the water like it had turned to lava lmao

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[–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago

I love the Effing petting zoo!

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Ohh. Effing is a place!

I always thought... Never mind.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good god Im dead just watching this

Blue-ringed octopuses are among the world’s most venomous marine animals, carrying enough venom to kill 26 adult humans within minutes.

https://youtu.be/NAmTTCV7GyY

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Another cute and friendly little guy, spreading a lot of joy.

[–] passiveaggressivesonar@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean I'd love to see one just maybe not handle one. Also, just how bitey are they really

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 9 points 1 month ago

That is the thing. They will bite if the feel scared, so it you are competent, relaxed and crazy enough, you may be able to handle one like this. They also have a little beak.

The Venn diagram of venomous and dangerous is not a plain circle.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 1 month ago

I love the f---ing petting zoo.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

I love Octopus, but this on is better not to pet. Yes, you can survive a bite, but only if there is an medical aid very near.

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