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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

We literally saw the outside world and thought "not for me" and invented houses.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The outside world is fine to visit if you have shelter nearby. It’s also fine for longer outings once you’ve driven every other predator to near extinction. It’s only pretty rather than terrifying now because the entire planet is our back yard now.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 9 points 6 hours ago

In 1937, it was 40 hours a week per household. Now it's 80 hours a week per household. The amount of work done by the average person has doubled for the same or less pay.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 hours ago

To be fair, if we look close, we see ecosystems within ecosystems, including a buttload of predation and two buttloads of parasitism. Parasites capitalizing on other lifeforms to utilize their energy and resources for their own growth and reproduction, as far as the eye can see.

And that's what human society is. It's much less prone to top-down parasitism in tiny societies (less than 500 members) but when we have communities of millions and states of tens of millions, it's pretty easy for religious ministries and ideological politicians to take over the system to make giant militaries that hammer other, less-captured societies.

Every once in a while some of us get the idea, what if we make a system that doesn't involve parasitism. I bet we can make everyone pretty happy. And this is true, except that the parasites really like having ridiculous amounts of wealth and power, and would rather render the entire species extinct than be confined to being a (well-to-do, comfortable) commoner.

This is why, even though there have been successful anarcho-communist organizations, they are often attacked by state law enforcement acting not in enforcing law, but in preserving political power.

No war but class war.

Death to monarchists.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We started with an unlimited workweek (often 12+ hours a day all day) and reduced it to 40 hours with a weekend and a paid lunch. (Remember the movie 9 to 5 that was typical. Then it became 9-6 with unpaid lunch.)

Around the Reagan era, Osha got defunded so it didn't have time to deal with all the labor violations, which was part of the enshittification.

Who knew it would lead to a nazi uprising?

Turns out everyone did. The industrialist intellegentsia actually warned this would happen based on historical precedent, but the boomer generation was all fuck the future including their own kids. To be fair, prior generations hating later generatiobs was the norm by the time it was their turn.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I mean, the business plot aimed to overthrow America and make it a fascist state.

It took a few more decades, sure, but right now I'd say they actually got everything they wanted originally and then some.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 7 hours ago

Many humans saw it and said “ooh, look at that natural beauty!”

Some humans saw it and said “ooh, look at those resources I can profit from!”

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Humans: What a bunch of absolute bastards

[–] FunkyElectro@pawb.social 40 points 13 hours ago

Yeah it's pretty but have you ever seen a Walmart parking lot 🤩🤩🤩

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Humans didn't invent this.

The rich did.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

They are no longer humans, they cast away their humanity when they ascended to power.

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 67 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Hard to believe but the 40hr week is an improvement

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 31 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

We went relatively quickly from 12h day to 10h and then 8h. And we stopped there for no reason.

[–] CritFail@lemmy.world 28 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Worse, they normalised 2 adults per household working 8 hours per day.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

I believe you mean 2 adults, working 8 hours with an unpaid lunch meaning 9 hours out plus commute.

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It is pretty sad that we haven't had any progress in 100 years despite all the technological marvels.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 14 points 12 hours ago

Maybe we had some progress but a class that is not the working class keeps all the money?
We will never know.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 36 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

I hope we do. I started working for myself and I've only got my tools on maybe 30hrs a week now, it's pretty great. Most days I can put in a solid 5 or 6 hours and be good. I want that for everyone.

[–] Mora@pawb.social 17 points 14 hours ago
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

While scenery like this is nice for hiking, try making a living there.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

There's probably fish, game, and foraging available. But, yeah, that's probably more surviving than living.

[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

"In communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic." - K.M.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 hours ago

Humans saw this and made a limestone mine.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I hate that often Microsoft Teams is the only piece of software I can get to work for sharing a screen with the layman. Many cross-platform user-friendly options don’t work reliably on Linux, but by some weird twist of fate, I get it to work more often than anything else.

Yes, for an IT person’s own solution, you’d just use a VPN or something, but I’m rarely working with people that are technical enough for this.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] HyonoKo@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

Yep used it for a while. Pretty solid, free and uncomplicated. Just send a link with a random word appended and you are meeting.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

No, and I don't think I'd ever ask anyone to try 'Jitsi'.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 7 hours ago

You won't need to ask anyone to "try it" or install anything. You simply send a link to the meeting and then it works for anyone on any device.

That's the good thing about it. You don't have to coordinate whether the other part has Teams, Google Meet or Zoom or whatever.

It runs in the browser, it's free, encrypted and no account or installation required.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

But that's sexy.