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[–] egrets@lemmy.world 124 points 1 month ago

Issue #1 or 5? You decide!

This got a bonus chuckle from me.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 95 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can Trolley Man at least multi-track drift?

https://files.catbox.moe/g2xmi6.jpg

[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I keep seeing this image, were ist from?

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Initial D parody.

While you are at that... https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QSrhGw4cU

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 56 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Still saves more lives than Homelander

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Isn't Homelander a villain though? I thought he was supposed to be a villain.

Edit: NM I didn't realize Homelander was from The Boys. I honestly thought he was the guy in Guardians of The Galaxy 3

Edit 2: Apparently that character's name is Adam Warlock.

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

SpoilerHomelander is the villain in the boys.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Anyone who drinks milk on-screen is always a villain.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Counterargument: Luke Skywalker.

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

At that point isn’t he? He created Kylo and then left everyone else to figure it out.

Not really a hero’s move

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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Let's see, Milk is a symbol of innocence and purity in movies, and is often used to make the audience feel uncomfortable when a villain or anti-hero drinks it.

This is because milk is typically associated with childhood, which is considered the most innocent and pure time of life.

When a villain drinks milk, it can represent the consumption or destruction of innocence, and can be used to indicate the villain's loss of innocence

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Ahh, kk. Never seen it, but I guess the two characters seem similar in that respect at least.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

The multiple layers of confusion gave me a laugh, thank you.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I remember reading The Infinity gauntlet comics and in it Adam warlock was supposed to be the greatest human being ever created.

And then they picked the actor that they chose for him and I'm just not seeing it.

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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yes, if you change the problem, you change the way we respond. that's why there's so many trolley problems spin offs in the first place

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

but the end result is the same.

you're always left with five.

what's wrong with you

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[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The artist just immortalized in a strip that does not understand the trolley problem.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It understands it just fine. Agency is not a factor in the decision. The choice between action and inaction doesn't matter. People think it matters because people are driven by shortsighted emotions.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I think the thing that people often don’t seem to understand about the trolley problem is that it doesn’t have a “single version”, it’s a framework for exploring human decision making. And the correct answer, it’s all a matter of perspective. For example, if all of drag’s friends were on one side of the track, and on the other side of the track, were a number of people who drag does not know, equal to the number of drag’s friends plus one, would drag kill their friends, or the innocent people?

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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Agency might matter depending on societal context. 5 hot guys might be worse than 1 hot guy in a world with limited resources, for example.

Everyone knows that 5 of something is usually better than 1. The dilemma comes from finding a situation where that might not be true, and therein exploring some quirks of our own humanity.

It goes too far when people interpret these quirks as fundamental human traits, but there is genuine merit in testing oneself with fun hypotheticals

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[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So philosophical debate on this topic is meaningless, because utilitarism is obviously correct?

Please take off your clothes and lay down here, I have five patients in desperate need of organ transplants.

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[–] Skates@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What a crock of shit. Living with the knowledge that you killed someone isn't shortsighted, it's tragic. You pulling the trigger to switch the trolley to kill only the 1 person can and will have consequences on your own mental health.

And the comic isn't even about the choice between action and inaction, it's about "Oh wow, 5>1, this dilemma is easy lol" - nah, even if you make it purely about the numbers - unless you're a fucking psychopath, you're not gonna kill your newborn to save 5 strangers.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

Living with knowing you did nothing to save 4 people may affect you as badly. To be fair, the person doing the choice is fucked up both ways, if ey is not a sociopath.

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Entire thing is analysis paralysis. There always some information that will change desired outcome.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Don’t bother trying to explain philosophy directly to people online. We’re so convinced of our own intelligence that we refuse to consider that our knee-jerk reaction to anything might be worth exploring.

If you want people to learn anything, you have to first of all tell them that they’re right, then add whatever you’re trying to teach them as if it’s some nuance of whatever they’re right about. Even if it makes their original opinion completely wrong. It works surprisingly often.

Our egos have an outer layer of armor that prevents us from easily absorbing ideas unless they have a starting point of agreeing with whatever we already believe.

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[–] TOModera@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

It's close to the second ghost rider (and maybe the first, been awhile since I dug up my old comics) who didn't have powers until innocent blood was spilled (though typically it was the villain who spilled it).

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ugh, this guy's gonna be a problem.

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[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

The Dave Chappelle bit about Bill Cosby being a superhero.... but he rapes.

[–] boert@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just played this as a board game with my friends. They decided that pineapple on pizza is worse than Donald Trump. My hope in humanity is shattered.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That is crazy. I can't think of any part of Donald Trump that I would want on my pizza.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Aren't we always chanting "eat the rich"? I'd be fine with the food poisoning, hell even the brain eating prions, if it means he won't be president.

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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The best part is that, by refusing to be killed themselves, they are making a choice to let the other people die, rendering their hypocrisy evident and their worry fully rendered moot

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[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I want more of this. Reminds me on the anime Darker than Black, where those with power always had to fulfill some contract to use their power, else they'd die.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Man, this anime is so underrated. I like it a lot. I question the artistic direction on the second season, but at least the ending wrapped up the whole show nicely.

A little correction, nobody really know what happens when a contractor doesn't do that side-effect thingy. It is never mentioned if they would die, nor that it's even implied. The way I see it, they'd simply develop strong impulse to do so.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago

Also a spin-off where Trolley Man cures incurable patients one by one using sacrifices of 5

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I would read the shit out of this but 5 people I have never and will never meet who nobody knows will die painlessly and I’m just not sure of the moral implications.

[–] No_Money_Just_Change@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago

And here was I thinking that this character was so terrible that it caused Stan Lee to spontaneously spring back into existence in order to make that opinion known.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

There is no sinking ship. Fake news!

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

"collateral damage"

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Just put explosives collars on a bunch of murderers and rapists. Need superpowers just press a button and kill one murderer off.

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