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[–] adhocfungus@midwest.social 46 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

This is obviously funny, but I think the end result will be a bit sad. Spammers will (or already are) start to use similar AI programs to cold call people, then transfer to the scammer if they've got a live one. Eventually we're just going to be heating the Earth so that invisible chatbots can have conversations no human will ever hear.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

But just think of the PROFIT to be made selling the AI before the world burns from it!

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I'm just going to start not answering the phone unless it's a number in my contacts. If it's important they can leave me a message.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 hour ago

What has worked for me quite well over the last few years was answering the phone without saying anything. Spammers usually are dead silent as it's just a voice recognition bot waiting for a "hello" or similar and hang up within a couple of seconds if nothing is said. Regular people have "static" most of the time. I've had a few recruiters call while having their mic on mute, but they start talking themselves fairly quickly.

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The scammers can spoof any number, including one of your contacts.

[–] VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

The scammers are usually are sitting in a call center (in Asia usually.) However if they would call from that number people won’t pick it up or would not believe that it is Amazon, Microsoft or your bank. This is the reason they are pretending to be calling from an another (local) number. They can do this using a loophole in the roaming system. So this why you can receive calls pretending by to be your contact’s number or even from your own number. This is why just blocking those numbers is not that effective. Also if you call the number back, it is not the scammer, just a normal person or business with that number. Hope this explains it.

[–] ClemaX@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

Ah least they would need to know it first.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, depends on if the spammer's AI can detect the chatbot AI consistently.

[–] DanglingFury@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Or vice versa. It will be a cold war of ai's creating unheard conversations and shitting out CO2, all backed by mutually opposing multi billion dollar industries.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine explaining this headline into somebody in 1990.

[–] eccentric@lemm.ee 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine explaining this headline to somebody in 1890!

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 3 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 29 minutes ago) (1 children)

Imagine explaining this headline to the very last somebody reading it in an old internet archive in a bunker in 2090!

[–] eccentric@lemm.ee 2 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

somebody reading it in an old internet archive in a bunker in 2090

How very optimistic of you. I've been a little more despondent about our future. I doubt we'll still exist as a species in 2090.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 3 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago) (2 children)

We'll cling to life like cockroaches despite being so fragile.

Our wealth class has littered and is littering this Earth with climate controlled luxury bunkers to escape the consequences of their own fine work, which will buy some sad bastards the honor of sipping expensive whiskeys in concrete tombs below the scorched surface for a few decades before we finally, mercifully end.

It might be the family of the perpetrators we know like the Bezoses and Musks, but I can only dream it will be their service/security staff that will have murdered them the moment the security doors closed and took their shit.

[–] eccentric@lemm.ee 2 points 17 minutes ago

I can imagine the ruling class to still have their pissing contests with other billionaires from their secure bunkers. Eventually they'll develop bunker busting nukes and everyone will be gone.

[–] eccentric@lemm.ee 2 points 20 minutes ago

It's all so depressing. I know it's not going to help but I need a drink.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 28 points 10 hours ago

Sir, after the latest round of training to the new LLM it hallucinates all the time talking about nonsense that never happened, and every time you ask it any questions, It gets preoccupied with the first answer it comes up with and won't take any more input.

Wait I have an idea....

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Lenny did this without AI over a decade ago.

[–] SE_DeepFried@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Larissa, Lenny's third eldest, would be proud.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 3 points 5 hours ago

Yes, yes, yes

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 34 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

"Daisy" is claimed to be indistinguishable from a real person, fooling scammers into thinking they've found perfect prey thanks to its ability to engage in "human-like" rambling chat, the biz claims.

lmao okay. This will work for maybe a week, and then they will smarten up

[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 56 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Watching Kitboga videos, they do not smarten up.

I'm guessing he selects scammers for maximum enjoyment and doesn't randomly sample. I imagine there are plenty of smart scammers out there.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago

They do not be oversmart

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 20 points 10 hours ago

I've watched an 18 minute video of an Indian scammer talking to an answering machine randomly repeating one of like 10 pre-recorded voice lines. This one is most likely much better and will steal hours of their time.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

Lmao, you've never heard of Lennybot.

Scammers are stupider than you could ever imagine.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago

Idk, elderly are prone to ramblingnon and sometimes not making much sense. Perfect use of AI if you ask me.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The Grandma-Honeypot LOL

But I don't believe in it. If I were the scammer, I would have maybe 2 or 3 of these lengthy talks with "her", but afterwards I would recognize her and of course avoid her anytime.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Nah, u gotta remember that they call from loud call centers with a shitty headset. Not that easy to pick up details in the voice

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Until they change the name and voice and have a whole fleet of elderly AI chatbots.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That "fleet" would need many significant differences, like when you recognize different people, then many features are different. If your grandma talks to you with a different tone, you would still recognize your grandma easily.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 3 points 9 hours ago

Depends on how much effort the average scammer puts into remembering the prospective victims that don't bite. My guess is that they don't waste too many brain cells on that.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Once again, one of the very rare few areas where ai isn't a completely shitty solution: tasks that are worthwhile and important, but that require labor no one is willing to pay for.

Others include translation, transcription, and image descriptions. Things people won't put resources into but that should happen anyway

The only problem is that these have nothing to do with why massive companies are investing in this tech. If AI didn't enable the equivalent of money laundering for intellectual labor, the billionaires wouldn't give a shit

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Ok that's actually pretty funny