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That’s all.

EDIT: Thank you all for detailing your experience with, and hatred for, this miserable product. Your display of solidarity is inspiring. Now, say it with me:

Fuck Microsoft

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 22 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I mean, with winter coming in, and universities not bothering to heat the building, teams turning my potato work laptop into a furnace is the only thing keeping us warm this winter...

Serious question - is their long term strategy bad optimisation to sell hardware? Do they have shares in intel or something?!?

[–] omarfw@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."

Mega corporations that only hire contract workers with no morale or investment in the long term success of the company (because the majority of their efforts are purely to appear shareholders) are not equipped with the means to put out decent products.

Passion, dedication, investment in workers, and long term talent are what create remarkable pieces of software. Microsoft has none of this because these things are incompatible with the directives of infinite growth shareholder appeasement. Want extra time for QA? nope, that would reduce profits. Want to pay higher salaries to attract better talent? Nope, that would reduce profits. Want to adequately reward employees in ways they actually connect with like raises and bonuses? Nope, that would cut into the boss' annual bonus and he needs his new vacation home more than we need to afford rent.

There is an optimal level of profit chasing and company size within which excellent software can be produced, and Microsoft exceeded those thresholds years ago. There is also an optimal phase of capitalism that is conducive to quality innovation and development, and we're well past it.

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[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You put more effort into this post than M$ did to their product

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)
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[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Outlook 2010 is better than this new office 365 shit too.

[–] NetherFalcon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 16 hours ago

what about libreoffice? i did hear that's a good alternative to ms office but i wasn't sure if i was wrong but yeah i thought it would be alright to mention that here since you mentioned ms office

[–] portuga@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I have an office account for work. I don’t happen upon the troubles people report here. I couldn’t leave MS as I basically use all their stuff for work (and so do the several other hundreds of employees here). But teams does work well: texting, videocalls with 100s of participants, recording meetings, file repositories

I use teams every day. My only gripe recently is the messages like “look the wonderful things we did to improve it” that I didn’t need and will probably never use, but I press the little X don’t know don’t care

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 21 hours ago

I feel similarly. I work in an office that's heavily invested in Microsoft for everything and when you use Microsoft everything Teams fits in really nicely with great outlook integration, Microsoft Loop integration, etc. and the experience on Teams is fine

[–] kalpol@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Also the surveys after eveey call. Drives me crazy. And the weird file editor, never edit PowerPoint slides in Teams.

And the way it absolutely freaks out when the computer is in standby.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

lmao, based. Discord too.

[–] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 7 points 21 hours ago

What is crazy is that Mac version is more stable than windows in my experience. Still shit, though

[–] Pizza_Rat@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

It's the fucking worst.

[–] Brasidas@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I love how they rolled out the new upgraded Teams and it's still awful!

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It's because they did at least one complete rewrite, possibly two. But both of them needed to integrate with the rest of Microsoft, which practically forces them to be crap.

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[–] nogare97@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Since I have not seen anyone mention this problem yet: Teams doesn't let you mute other people in a call for yourself. Obviously also no volume control per person. Imagine sitting next to your coworker in a teams meeting and having to deal with hearing them twice with like 20 ms delay. Awful.

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[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's the worst and has been running like total crap for years. Even Skype for business worked better. Luckily it is better than Cisco Jabber or Webex.

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[–] 7toed@midwest.social 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I dont know.. SharePoint has pissed me the hell off too, its a close one

[–] Benaaasaaas@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fun fact, teams backend is sharepoint. It's just a fancy wrapper on top 🤡

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[–] remon@ani.social 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I have a Jabra Headset (now retired) that literally has a MS Teams logo on the side and is market as "Teams compatible". As you might have guessed, Teams is the only VC app were I regularly have to switch betwen inputs to get the headset to work during a call.

[–] Kissaki@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

"Works with teams. But most times. Some times."

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[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Out of curiosity are any similar products actually good? My company uses Webex and frankly I'd rather use teams.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Zoom would be nice if they stopped pushing the AI crap and didn’t randomize functionality and button placement every other upgrade. The annotation tool is really great when it decides to show up.

[–] elfin8er@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

We used to use Slack + Zoom and had a much better experience than Teams.

[–] MintyAnt@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Slack for text chat, zoom for video calls

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Slack is better than Teams IMO, but I don't know if I'd call it "good."

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No, no! Dogshit sometimes fertilizes and promotes growth. Microsoft teams is poison.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don’t care. I’ll take anything that maintains staff meetings from home. Before COVID they were 90% in person.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

Microsoft spent billions acquiring Skype only for us to be left with Teams

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Genuinely the single worst messaging app I've ever used. Worse than Skype, which is crazy because Microsoft owns that too.

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[–] dax@feddit.org 36 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The biggest mistake was to make it a "hub" for all sorts of other uses in my opinion. It shouldn't be browser based, it should be native and just focus on chatting and calls, that's it. It could be so much faster and intuitive.

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah, they're all crap.

Came to Teams from Slack, some upsides, some downsides. It's a corporate communication tool, I don't use it because I think it's beautiful and elegant, I use it because I get paid money to use it.

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[–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm going to go ahead and record this meeting. Please speak up if you object. Because we've provided so much psychological safety that there will surely be no judgement or fear of reprisal for those with any hesitation to swim in line with the corporate current. We're also going to share files in this chat that you'll have to catalogue and remember - so when someone refers to a nondescript file shared 3 weeks ago you'll be forced to know exactly which chat and file you're referring to. Also, put yourself on video. We appreciate face to face communication.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

That's not really Teams fault though. Sounds more like a team issue than a Teams issue.

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[–] spicystraw@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Unpopular opinion: I actually like MS Teams

Look, I know this might get downvoted, but Teams is... actually fine? Yeah, it's not perfect, but it just works. The best part is that everyone and their grandma knows how to use it because it's the corporate standard around here.

I can't tell you how much time I've saved not having to do the whole "can you hear me? let me try reconnecting... oh wait try updating your browser" dance that happens with other platforms. My company recently switched to Google Meet and honestly? It's been a downgrade. Teams might not be the coolest kid on the block, but at least I'm not spending half my meetings troubleshooting audio and video issues.

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