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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh, God. Latin America, and especially Cuba, are going to suffer.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

At least Cuba will join the BRICS, this guy will probably be more aggressive with Nicaragua (against which Biden started a strange fight out of nowhere, he literally pushed Ortega towards China for no reason and gained nothing from it) and Venezuela.

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Cuba made the "partners" shortlist and these are not members yet(if ever), right now its not clear if partners get anything at all besides a membership card and a meme Putin coin even.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago

a meme Putin coin even.

Imagine if Trump releases his own Trump meme coin to counter the Brics money?

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

At least Cuba will join the BRICS

Wait is this confirmed?

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think so, Brazil invited Cuba and Bolivia, while they vetoed Venezuela (and some sources say Nicaragua, but others say Nicaragua wasn't even in this Pre-List). Putin (Russia is the current president of BRICS) agreed with Brazil (who will take over next year) and Cuba joined the partner states program. What Cuba really wants is to join BRICS Bank to get some aid and investement without the sanctions fucking with them.

BRICS approves Cuba, Bolivia, and 11 other countries as 'partner states' - Brasil de Fato

The group of countries invited to join the BRICS as "partner states" includes Turkey, Indonesia, Algeria, Belarus, Cuba, Bolivia, Malaysia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Thailand, Vietnam, Nigeria, and Uganda.

On 24 October 2024, an additional 13 countries, namely Algeria, Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Nigeria, Thailand, Turkey, Uganda, Uzbekistan and Vietnam, were invited to participate as partner countries. No membership invitations were extended.

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is there a way for the US to block BRICS aid?

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think that would mean war. I don't think the US can block ships with food, fuel and medical aid. They can block ammo, guns and guns parts (the DPRK used to sent guns to Cuba during the 1990's - 2000's but they US didn't like that the DPRK was selling guns to Latin American countries like Peru, Ecuador and Colombia). All they will probably do is mark these ships as "breaking the embargo" and refuse to let them sail on US owned ports (Russia shouldn't care, they already are banned from US ports).

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

BRICS as a whole, if they trade with Cuba, must have decided to call the US’s bluff because the US needs BRICS more than BRICS needs the US.

The US is not going to actually stop trading with BRICS, that would be utterly self destructive

[–] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

With the earthquake too the year 2025 is really looking rough for Cuba doomjak

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yeah... I'm bracing myself for it, not that it will make it feel any better, but the Cuban revolution probably won't be around in four years.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's not like the Cuban goverment was expecting anything good to come from the US. Even Biden attempted a coup in 2021, which failed. I don't think Russia or China will ever let the Cuban goverment fall because it's a very important strategic ally of them.

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think Russia or China will ever let the Cuban goverment fall because it's a very important strategic ally of them.

They need to step the fuck up then.

Between China, Russia, and Mexico, they have reliable, sovereign partners for energy, infrastructure, defense, technology, and food. They can twart the US blockade. Russia is already near maximally sanctioned by the US, so they have no reason to not be making regular shipments of Russian oil/gas and goods from China and Mexico.

One of those situations that highlights how devastating the collapse of the Soviet Union was for the world.

One of those situations that highlights how devastating the collapse of the Soviet Union was for the world.

very much

this is why shit on anyone that says they didn't support the USSR after Stalin ,Even if the USSR was revisionist ,it was still better for the world ,The USSR's dissolution as well of the collapse of the eastern bloc also fucked the Palestinian Struggle over ,we would have been a much more botched version of the "decolonization" of South Africa but Israel refused to even give Area's B and C to the PA and Sharon's visit to Al-Aqsa pretty much killed any chance of any "peaceful" resolution ever happening

The USSR's illegal dissolution was a tragedy for the world

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

True. I hope you are right. It feels like China and Russia never rock the boat much, so I've not had much hope for them. Also Mexico has been very good lately. They just sent a ton of oil.

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

China and Russia have been somewhat disappointing, but I have been pleasantly surprised with how much support they have received from Latin America.

China's foreign policy has been so good for making themselves indispensable to the global economy, but at the expense of doing cool shit to counter the west.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

I think Xi personally is very interested in good relations with Latin America and Africa. He used to grant a lot of loans for Argentina before Milei got elected. Now it seems Xi is very interested in good relations with Brazil (Huge Market, Protectionist Economy, the CPC wants closer relations with the Workers' Party, huge Asian Population and Influence, closer military ties with Chinese troops training with Brazilian troops and US troops in there), theres going to be the G20 meeting in Rio, and it seems Xi really wants to talk with Lula.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I remember that the closest the US came to overthrowing the Venezuelan government (apart from the 2002 coup, which did remove Chávez from power, but there was a counter-coup a few days later) was in 2019. Russia sent some soldiers and warships to help Maduro, then Trump was defeated by Joe Biden. Initially, Biden decided to follow an agreement that Spain and Norway were making, then Colombia and Brazil joined in, which would guarantee that the US would remove most of the sanctions against Venezuela, which lasted until 2024. The US returned with the sanctions, except for the oil ones. Biden also didn't pay for the repair of Venezuela's oil extraction industry, as he had promised.

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago

Comrade I say with with genuine respect, but I feel this is pessimistic beyond what the facts of the situation warrant, thus being unhelpful. Things are rough, but we are not even at Special Period levels of rough yet.

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago

I hope you're wrong, but the situation does not look good.

China could really help a lot here with their infrastructure magic.

The worst effects of the blockade could be circumvented permanently with enough solar & storage. Then minimize the potential for espionage and color revolution by installing a fuckton of Huawei networking equipment, radios to connect to China's satellite internet constellation, and make a push to use Chinese software services where ever possible.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

Jesus Christ, they’ve endured worse than Pedo Don and Little Marco, come on now

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago

fidel-wut that's not good

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Bad news specially if as predicted Brazil fucks themselves as Lula's government is about to do with cutting social programs right before the crucial pre-'26 election cycle. Once Brazil is compromised BRICS will have no influence in the region, questionable as it already is since Cuba being a new "partner" member is not relevant yet.

Currently a big struggle within the Brazilian government along with massive progressive/left wing parties and unions pushing back. Its not even a victory to make things better which is the shit part, its always the usual fight to stop neoliberal ghouls from making things worse and in this case a completely suicidal blow to Lula's re-election chances.

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The following months we will be like an advent calendar, but the prizes are forgotten ghouls

[–] AmericaDeserved711@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

I literally forgot he existed

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

Obviously this is bad but in fairness there were no good options on the table, and at least we get to laugh a bit at all these people Trump mocked relentlessly coming around to suckle his toes. fall-in-line

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

Little Marco is getting a BIG job.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

Awwwww! Lil' Marco's back! He was my favorite character from Season 1!

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

nooo do someone funny not this CIA drone

i really need to block c/fakenews

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago

Marco Rubio Bot eh?