I’m in that weird group that’s between Gen-X and Millennial. I’ve seen us called Xennials or the Oregon Trail Generation.
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But seriously, I think we had one of the most interesting technological evolution of any generation. Going from using the Dewey decimal system and encyclopedias early on, to using the internet before graduating.
Was Oregon Trail really that huge?
It really was. It was a time when most didn’t have computers at home. Once a week you’d get to go down to the computer lab and play educational games from MECC. Oregon Trail being the most popular of the bunch.
About twice a week we would go to the computer lab filled with Apple IIes. Usually we had to play Number Munchers, Word Munchers, or some other game to reenforce whatever we learned in class. After we finished the game in the lesson plan, we could then play whatever educational game we wanted. Oregon Trail was a popular choice because nothing was funnier than having the game say a classmate had died or broke a leg. And the hunting and rafting mini games were the closest to arcade games.
Also keep in mind that the only exposure most of the teachers had to a computer were the mainframe terminals in the school's office or the computer lab. MECC put together a lot of software and training for teachers. A school building out an Apple II based computer lab with a bunch of MECC software was as close to turnkey as they could get at the time. The documentation for Oregon Trail or Odell Lake gives you an idea of what it was like.
http://www.mecc.co/history/the-oregon-trail---a-157/mecc_a-157_oregon_trail.pdf
http://www.mecc.co/science/odell-lake---a-192/mecc_a-192_odell_lake.pdf
Xennial!
First computer I used in school was an Apple IIe with a 720kb, 5.25" floppy drive.
First computer at home was a Tandy 1000. Still out in the garage, I think.
Xennial as well. My first home PC was an Epson with 640k and a 3.5 DD disk drive and a "Turbo" button on the front of the case.
I remember getting a kick out of a game that used RealSound, a piece of software for doing voice and other similarly complex sound out of the standard PC speaker (apparently it handled 6-bit PCM audio, though I wouldn't know that at the time).
That game included a card explaining how to improve the audio out of your PC by building a cable to connect the line going to your PC speaker to an RCA cable to connect it to a stereo or boombox. The cable wasn't great at what it did (and better designs had been devised since), but it was pretty simple (if I remember right just some RCA cable, a couple of alligator clips and a capacitor).
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Gen-X, here.
Nice. We still need a Boomer. Silent Gen would be a nice bonus.
What format did you use for removable storage at first?
5.25" floppy disks, formatted on a Commodore 64 with a 1541 disk drive.
Another GenX. Aka the best generation.
There are dozens of us, dozens!
~~Old fart~~ Boomer here, my first computer was a Sinclair ZX Spectrum.
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Im somewhere between Gen Z and Millennial i don't feel like either "Culture" is normal
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Xennial here! Had friends with Atari 2600s, first childhood console was an NES, and first home computer was a used Atari 800XL.
Oh, and my first school computers in small-town Ontario were Commodore PETs and ICONs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICON_(microcomputer)).
Wow, go Ontario Ministry of Education.
RIP Bette Stephenson. In the same way that Al Gore invented the Internet, Bette Stephenson invented the ICON. She was a very stubborn politician who would not tolerate anything other than complete success from the project. Passed away 3 years ago.
I'm a millennial but I also have an interest in computing before my time. The possibility of understanding the computer entices me, whereas modern computing is more interested in understanding me.
Worry not I am also a fellow Zoomer.
I always enjoyed retro technology either because I didn't use to get the latest stuff right away or because there's a certain charm to it that still grabs my interest.
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I'm in my 20s. I got into retro computing because I used older (Windows 95) computers my parents handed down to me when I was a child and things got cemented and I started looking at even older tech when I started watching YouTube videos covering retro computing.
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My first computer was a 48K Sinclair ZX Spectrum, when I was maybe 12 years old. That's how old I am.
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Old enough to have bought a new C64 from Toys R Us
I’m a xennial. Though we were always a bit behind the curve (my first computer was a Philips XT clone, back in the early nineties), so I guess I’ve always been retrocomputing.
But yeah, it’s kind of shocking to see people being all nostalgic about stuff I consider newish.
(And I’m still cursing myself for throwing out my CPD-G420)
Gen Z here. Oldest computer I remember my family having was an XP tower, a Dell Dimension.
I studied computer engineering, and that interest pulled me into retro tech. I love seeing what older hardware is capable of — I’ve got a Pentium laptop that can load old Reddit and stream music over wifi.
There’s a trove of old hardware and software to dig through too with so many unique odds and ends. History and tech worth preserving. One of my favorite projects so far was doing some programming challenges in BASIC on an Apple II. Anything old-tech is fun to me :)
There's a really noticeable difference in motivation between the old and young users here. For you and me, it's conceptual, for a lot of the older users it's pure nostalgia because I guess the concepts aren't new.
Old. Just caught the tail end of the era of big machines.
Learnt Unix on a VAX 11/750. Used text terminals for a long time.
In the early 90's my college had a VAX for student accounts via wonderful dial up The CS dept had Sparcstation 2 workstations
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I'm a millennial. First computer was a TRS-80 CoCo 2 with extended color basic. Then a C64 (which was sort of disappointing since extended color basic was way better than anything on the commodore, but the games were much better), and then I started with an 8088 with a herc monochrome monitor and no hard drive and only went up from there.
To answer the question a bit more directly, I would guess that demographics here skew a bit older than elsewhere. That is just a guess, based on the fact that sdf.org dates back to 1987.
GenX - I wrote my very 1st program in Assembler on the Odyssey 2 game system, on channel 2, on my parents Magnavox TV (Rosewood entertainment center with the FM radio & record player) in the family room 1979.
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Atari VCS > VIC20 > C64> Amiga 500 > Amiga 1200 > Amiga 4000
I'm 29!
Millennial, I guess.
I still have my first VIC-20. Representing!
Not a zoomer, but I am on the youngest edge of millennial -- the first computer I remember using was running Windows 95, and our first home computer was a Pentium era HP. My love for the older stuff didn't start until I was much older.
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Another Oregan Trail generation here.
I'm curious about what's going to happen with Gen Alpha. Any other moms and dads here exposing their kids to retrotech? I have two little ones that I've made a DOSBox installation for (Mixed-Up Mother Goose and Donald Duck's Playground are their favourites). I do wonder how they're going to think about old tech when they're older. I haven't told them that it's "old" or "retro" yet, so they just think they're normal fun games.
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Millennial here. I used computers from a very young age, and when my near-continuous use became untenable, my parents got me my own: first computer was a Macintosh IIfx, then a Sun Ultra 1, then a Power Mac G4 (the stripes on the front, handles, don't remember exact model name). Everything after the G4 has been less exciting, even if it's all more powerful. Not sure if this is because I've gotten older or if the gear has gotten less fun.
Milennial. Got started with computers when my dad brought home a Mac Classic for Christmas 1990. Our elementary school still used Apple II machines for a while (number munchers, ad libs and so on) before switching to Macs. Didn't even see a PC until years and years later.
Millennial. But we had Granny's Garden running on an Acorn Archidedes in our country rather than Oregon Trail. I was a kid in the 90s
Gen X, first computer usage was a terminal connected to an Amdahl mainframe at the University of Alberta in 1980, played Adventure and that was the gateway drug. First PC usage was an Apple II+ in 1981. Stuck with mostly Apple from that point on. Currently the proud owner of an Apple IIc as my main retro machine, but I’ve got a couple of Classic IIs, a IIci, and then a raft of PowerBooks (165, 520, 1400 and more modern) and a Cube. Nostalgia is a potent drug and we’re it not for my partner’s ability to say “hold on” I’d probably have a lot more machines than the dozen I currently own.
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Learned some language (I don't know if it was Basic or other) on an Apple II at school in fifth grade. Asked for a family computer for xmas and was disappointed that we got a Mac IIsi because I couldn't program it. 80MB HD. Everymac.com says 2 or 5MB of RAM.
SCSI! Back when data cables were huge and included terminators and channels or whatever. Stop making things so damn convenient and let us work our asses off to plug things in. /s
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Me zoomer as well, I suppose.
The first operating system I used was windows XP (:
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