This is what bugs me more than anything. They "know" my bag didn't make the flight but instead of sending me a message (to the email / phone number I already gave them) they make me wait two hours on the ground after a one hour flight.
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Forget the contact details, captian could have informed it at any point during the flight but nope, can't cause any problems that may affect their schedule.
The actual right response should have been not to depart. Or cancel the flight. What are 111 passengers going to do without their luggage at the destination?!
That's not entirely fair. I would rather arrive at my location without luggage than not at all. I can always get some cheap shirts and shorts or whatever at my destination. I can't get my hotel, and other prepaid scheduled expenses fees back.
Which just reiterates the initial point, communication solves this.
'hey guys, so, basically we can't get your bags on the plane lolol wanna still go? Stay on the plane. Umad? Get off and get a refund'
Wow. Hard stuff.
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Sure. But that's you. And probably me. But we don't represent all possible, legitimate scenarios.
Go shopping at the airlines' expense!
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The crew fucking knew... like I kind of understand not saying it on the plane as some people might react badly or whatever but at least when they are on destination at least inform them....
Exactly. If they'd have just said outright "look, we fucked up, your bags aren't here, go to your hotels, and we'll have them sent on tomorrow", people would have been annoyed but could at least have enjoyed their holidays.
The complete lack of communication from transport companies is beyond maddening. And it's the same everywhere. When my train is "delayed", I've no idea if that's 5 minutes away or if it's an inferno lying on its side on an embankment. The automated announcements will be the same either way.
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“Of course we regret the inconvenience” is so disingenuous. Just shows how procedural this response was. To me, it reads as “We regret the inconvenience because we have to, not because we actually give a shit.”
Some of you may be extremely inconvenienced, but that is a sacrifice we are willing to make.
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Once they minimize it as "the inconvenience", I'm already hopping mad. They don't know how badly I wanted the thing we agreed to before money changed hands. They act like the consumer surplus of the trade is zero; that all you've lost is some pittance and not the opportunity to solve your problem in a better way.
They won't say "our mistake" or "our choice" because that would be actually owning their own fuckup.
End all airline subsidies.
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There is no such thing as a labor shortage. There is only a wage shortage caused by the airline. Stop pushing costs down to the point you can't operate, you twats.
I can't recall the last time I traveled with checked luggage. It has its disadvantages, for sure, but flying is a terrible enough experience without having to stand in line waiting to check luggage, and then standing around waiting for it to (maybe) appear on a conveyor belt.
No kids?
I usually get my kids their own tickets to sit with me.
Why bother? You can just rent them at arrivals
They have those little kiosks now don't they? Headphones, movies, gaming system, kids...
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AFIK they don't let you check them in, for obvious reasons
He, I suppose that's obvious :)
I almost never checked bags prior to having a child but there's been plenty of times where the airline checked my bags at the gate because the overheads were full so I quickly learned it's something you can't count on.
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My wife and I just flew with 2 kids and no checked bags. Yes, it was a pain to manage 4 carry-ons and 4 personal bags, but it was manageable, and it beat the hell out of paying another $200 to have those 4 bags checked.
Edit: They're 6 and 8 years old. It's impossible for me to say whether it would have been possible when they were younger, as my 8-year-old is only recently past her medical issues that necessitated considerable additional luggage -- so we just didn't fly.
I went to Disney for a week with my 1 year old and wife. We used 2 carry one and a personal bag.
I refuse to take checked bags because I travel off and on for work and I’ve been burned too many times with checked bags.
It’s pretty easy to pull off if you just do things like sleep in the clothes you plan on wearing the next day or only bringing enough diapers and wipes for the plane and buying a weeks supply at your destination.
Your didn't have a car seat with you? I can see getting away without a stroller if you use a carrier but no car seat isn't an option.
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My wife and I have done several trips with our two kids (born 2018 and 2020) and have never checked in anything. It's absolutely doable if you pack wisely.
Great when you can manage it, they often take my carry on luggage from me and insist on checking it. Had musical instruments forcibly checked like that against written policy and paid-for permissions several times now.
Also, some people like owning scissors. Or just have kids and need the extra luggage space.
Don't forget wheelchairs.
You are forced to check what is essentially your legs that in almost all cases is personalised for your specific needs (so you can't just sub in a generic chair) and often costs thousands if not tens of thousands, yet airlines lose or damage hundreds of wheelchairs and scooters every month in the US alone.
Or just have kids and need the extra luggage space.
I wouldn't check my kids tbh. They're just going to cause a mess during loading.
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All it would take is a little COMMUNICATION and it wouldn't be an unacceptable situation, but here we are.
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Circumstances like this are why I fly with only 1 small carry-on. I'm too paranoid to ever check a bag and haven't in over a decade.
This is why we need more high speed trains. Can't forget your luggage when you have it with you at all times
And they are being built and encouraged in Europe. I'd recommend anyone travelling within Europe first check for train routes before booking a flight.
That said, while they are improving the situation, building new rail lines, tunnels, bridges, etc., and changing the regulatory environment to allow more competition, these are slow improvements to make.
I checked and Zurich-Bilbao has few high-speed sections. They're building new high speed lines near Bilbao, but infrastructure takes time...
Last week, I flew with Swiss Air and it was the same story. They wanted me to check my carry-on bag, but I wasn’t having it—no telling what issues that could’ve caused. The flight was delayed for over an hour due to a lack of baggage handlers. Then, to add insult to injury, Zurich Airport apparently can’t handle wind coming from certain directions, leading to even more delays. I sprinted through customs to catch my connecting Swiss Air flight, only to find out it was also delayed. So much for Swiss punctuality.
Fun fact Swissair was the high quality Swiss airline for decades. Then they went bancrupt and Swiss was created. It is way worse. Air trafic wise Switzerland doesn't have a lot to offer.
Happened to a friend from europe to south America. He had less than a day for find equipments for the next gig of his crew.
Several passengers said the pilot in charge of the flight was apologetic over the delayed departure, but never mentioned leaving their bags in Zurich, according to Blick's report.
Yeah... that really sucks probably a good call on the pilots part to be honest.
honest?
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