I'm developing a nasty feeling that Democrat wonks are ideologically incapable of understanding that the price of bread has gone up 20% since '21.
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price of bread went up you say?
:pete: 20% is a goddamn shame. all my spreadsheets indicate we could get that price up at least 24%
But inflation has gone down! And the wage growth has never been higher. The economy is actually booming and you stupid plebs don't even know it!
What is actually up with the wage talk? The numbers I see graph dorks post seem ludicrous
Wage growth is a wildly difficult thing to categorize and analyze as a result. The largest percentage points gained came from the working class wages getting several dollars an hour more, but typically from the 9 bucks an hour range into 12 or 13 an hour, because employers literally were unable to get people working in grocery stores. So big percent gain but I'm real dollars and when coupled with inflation of rent and food it basically meant they were and are still falling behind.
Of course you have the "middle class" as well which saw moderate wage gains as well, but most of these people are more likely to swap jobs for raises rather than beg for raises from a current employer. Those who didn't job hop were seeing 4% gains iirc? Which when you roll together with the 12% of working class increases, does indeed paint a picture of "wow lol at all these gains were seeing the economy is doing great!"
But again the "middle class" is probably more upper class than actually middle, which has basically shrunk to such a small piece of the pie that it's like the top 60-80% (so only 20% of the people) of families and so I don't think they're actually hurting at all, compared to the bottom 60% of working class folks who are balanced on a knife's edge and it literally doesn't matter to them who is in power, life sucks, it's hard and they are just trying to last as long as possible before a health care issue knocks them out.
That's my take on it, I get most of my numbers from what sam seder talks about on his show, but I have the complete opposite take from him. The economy is a shambling zombie that doesn't know it's dead and is just waiting to collapse.
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The Dems are going to lose every single presidential election for however much longer they can exist for
i think there would likely be a UK like situation.
You could argue that a pandemic which killed millions while Trump talked about drinking bleach was their Truss tanks the economy in a day moment. 2020 was an abboration that got Biden over the line. I'd argue the yanks are one election cycle ahead on this trajectory compare to us Brits, rather than one election cycle behind.
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Forgive me if I am incorrect, but didn't Biden end the Child Tax Credits as part of his "Everything's Fine Now" policy?
They didn't technically 'end it', they let it expire, but functionally yes. They let Joe Manchin (remember that boogeyman) 'air concerns' and act as the scapegoat for letting it end.
Why did they put an expiration date on it at all? Seems like an unforced error.
Unforced errors are all the democrats can offer anymore
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I think so, and this dork's analysis is consistent with that since the dems keep trying to claim credit for programs that helped people years ago, which they ended, as though anyone remembers or gives a shit when they're struggling now.
hey let's listen to what the guy who spent $130 million to lose to Lindsay Graham by double digits has to say
“No, it is the people who were wrong”
What's crazy to me is how many libs will forget this feeling of betrayal and the steps the DNC took to get here. Just like '16, '20 and '24 there will be goldfish-eyed believers bloopin at leftists to vote for their new neoliberal x% Hitler in 4 years.
I wonder what republican fucker they'll have to fear monger against by then.
I honestly don't think Trump would try to change the laws in order to run for a third term. I feel like he mostly ran again out of spite and ego, but won't want to deal with the burden of the presidency a third time.
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A conclusion of the Chair's (false) argument is that appealing to the working class doesn't win elections, therefore why should they be appeal to in the future
Dems preparing to move ever rightward
and even marched in a picket line
"We rolled Biden's husk out for a few minutes of photo opportunism...what more do you unworthy shits want from us?!"
It is remarkable that he's the first president ever to do that, and it's literally the bare minimum of supporting the working class. That he's the first is more of an indictment of the US government than a sign of progress
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“[Joe] Biden was the most pro-worker president of my lifetime – saved union pensions, created millions of good paying jobs and even marched in a picket line.”
Wow, they really don't remember what that cracker did to the railworkers
Psh
Rail workers aren't real workers and don't deserve our support. The real workers are checks notes
looks for notes
flips through folders
Liz Cheney!
I'm going to seal myself in a sensory deprivation chamber and induce a coma that reduces my brain activity to the bare minimum required to sustain life in order to see if it is possible to somehow beat the DNC at a "learn nothing" competition
If you ever come out of the coma it means you've lost that wager
0 is not a negative number. You will fail.
For an idea of how serious these people are, this guy has @marvel in his Twitter bio
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At least we know who is keeping the dnc out of touch
When they pre-maturely declared an end to the pandemic and rolled back social supports they screwed over millions of people. Fucking idiots.
"But we promised people a bunch of stuff. What more do people want?"
Empty promises, material change, what's the difference?
I will learn nothing. You can't make me.
These dumbasses that point at $25k housing assistance and the small business thing as "social policies" are so fucking out of touch.
Tax credits arent a great way to administer social problems, although the child tax credit is somewhat good and should be expanded in the absence of other social programs.
But a tax credit for buying a house is useless. It would have driven up housing prices, with most benefit to developers and realtors, marginal benefit for people that will buy a house and get the credit (im in this category btw, as a likely first rime home buyer in the next 4 years). And it will hurt the working class who are overwhelmingly renters and would be hurt by the rising housing prices. Not to mention the likelihood of being blocked by courts the same way bidens loan forgiveness was (which i wouldve benefitted from to the tune of $20k as I received a Pell grant).
And the small business thing is like....so obviously dumb. Just a small scale trickle down idea i guess? It wouldnt really help anyone except marginal help to people who wanted to start a business and maybe creation of some new low wage jobs.
They lost the popular vote for the first time in decades and they are dead set on learning absolutely nothing.
The DNC and the Democratic party needs to go the way of the whigs
Sander pulled on his leash, will he now back down or respond to this challenge and put down
I would be glad to have him back as an enemy of the DNC. For all his flaws and all the disappointment of his willingness to associate with Biden, he really does seem to hate the democratic party insiders and I have fun seeing it. If Hillary kills him I think we should regard him as a martyr.
Agreed. If Hillary has BernDog shot we all forget everything that happened since super tuesday in 20 and pretend that he was a cool old dude who gave his life for a better world, cut down in his prime but the Klinton Krime Klique.
I hope he comes to the conclusion "welp helping the Dems defeat Trump gets nobody anywhere. Time to go on the offensive." Of course he's still to American imperialism brained but I'd be glad to have 2016 Bernie back.
Harrison probably thinks the solution is to simply beg for more money, lose, and then beg some more. If it worked for him in his state, it can work nation wide.
I got a text last night from 
asking me to donate 16 dollars because they ran out of money for ballot counting, very sad 
yeah, isn't this the guy who got unprecedented levels of campaign funding from the party because he was totally going to smash Lindsay Graham and then got the DNC chair as a consolation prize after getting blown out?
This is straight up BS
The pessimism of the mind: We are so fucked
The optimism of the soul: Fuck it we ball
At this point I see only one way to change the minds of democratic party leadership 
change the minds of democratic party leadership
Into pink mist?
for proposing policies that “would have fundamentally transformed the quality of life and closed the racial wealth gap for working people across this country”.
...without any plan (or probably even intention) for getting those policies past even the conservative wing of her own party.
You can trip over your own feet a couple times and folks will forgive you, but when it becomes routine you risk crossing the trust thermocline.
Let's pretend, for a moment, that everything he said is true about Bernie's critique. What is his explanation for the DNC loss, and a drop of 15 million votes? I looked at his Twitter after he posted this yesterday morning, and there's nothing except retweets.
Harrison is such a douche nozzle, and 100% wrong - so long as Dems refuse to do anything for the working class, they will continue to lose.
But of course, they don’t want to hear it.
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