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We can no longer hide behind the excuse of "the electoral college". We can no longer say that Trump did not win the popular vote. Trump won the Presidency, retook the Senate, and are poised to retain the house. Progressive candidates and initiatives either underperformed or failed nationwide. A majority of voters nationwide saw everything that came with a Trump presidency and a MAGA agenda and said "Yes. We want more of that."

We are not better than this.

This is basically the big thing that has been weighing on me. It’s very clear that the culture I thought I was brought up in, the thing that gave me pride, was not really US culture. It’s very clear to me that US culture values justice, democracy, truth, and the general wellbeing of people in no meaningful ways beyond the PR value of pretending to value these things. It’s very clear to me that this culture is way more racist, sexist, and classist than I was led to believe. It’s also very clear that this culture has an active disdain for education. In aggregate we are a gullible, irrationally emotional, entitled and greedy population with a nearly insatiable bloodlust for violence. We are, on the whole, a profoundly evil country made up of willfully ignorant masses that are ruled by duplicitous oligarchs. Now, I know that there are a lot of good people here. But there is nothing intrinsically American about their goodness. If anything they are an aberration from the seething awfulness that is America.

We absolutely are not. We are a nation of bigots, racists, and simpletons.

This is us, this is America.

Even the far left is stupid in America. They're supposed to be the educated ones. But instead of doing their civic duty, they stayed home. And you can blame it on Democrats all you like, but it's your duty to go vote, no matter who you vote for. The turnout this election was pathetic.

I don't understand how these people are going to complain now for the next 4 years, when they didn't even want to take part.

Back in 2016 they did a panel of all the creators of the TV political dramas. West Wing, Veep, Scandal, House of Cards, and all the rest.

All the creators said the same thing; if they'd had a character who said he 'liked soldiers who didn't get captured' the networks and advertisers would have demanded that character be shown to be hated by all Americans.

I used to give the collective 'us' the benefit of the doubt and assume we're just stupid, not evil.

After 4 years of Trump + all the Nazi shit he's said since, he did even better than he did the first time. People aren't ignorant to all that, they fucking love it.

We need to hurry up and go extinct and hope some critter rises from the ashes and evolves to be less of a collective sack of shit.

Trump, again, played the god card. Affirming his divine and righteous purpose.*

* god put him here because he's the Antichrist. A fucking demon. There are no angels left.

This video explains it well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzIaIiiZIpY

Basically Trump is a very American person, stemming from a very American history and culture.

He's not an ideal, he's not what they want American history and culture to have been. He's a product of what it actually has been.

Just with a bit of estimation of the remaining 12% of votes uncounted, Trump is going to beat his 2020 vote record by a couple million, 81 million on the high end and maybe closer to 77 million on the low end. Unlikely, but possible he beats the 2020 all time record set by Biden. Definitely beats his 2020 numbers.

Kamala recently pulled ahead of Hillary’s 65 million and Obama’s 66 million, she’s gonna end up around 71-74 million.

Kamala lost the Popular Vote. In fact she won some blue states by smaller margins then she lost some ‘swing’ states. Nevada might not even be tight enough to qualify as a swing state this election(needs to be 5% or less, Trump’s currently winning by 5.2% meaning it wasn’t a swing state), meanwhile Minnesota was won by 3, New Jersey by 4, New Hampshire by 4 and a half, and Maine might be lost we’ll see, but those 4 were all swing states as the margin was less than 5%. New Mexico and Virginia came very close(and New Mexico would have been under 5 without RFK Jr dragging Trump down a point).

This also suggests the Electoral College no longer favors Republicans, and is somewhere between neutral and actually favoring Democrats again. 2028 a tight election with a Democrat win could see them lose the PV and win the EC.

I had a ton of 2004 vibes from the start and it looks like that was correct. He is coming back to serve a second term, and YES, this time he won the national electiiion

(Also you can’t blame third parties this time, they did horribly nationwide. At worst maybe they tightened up Virginia a bit just through how uniquely bad for Democrats it was there, but on the other hand RFK Jr is the only reason New Mexico didn’t crack a sub 5 margin and go into Swing State territory again(Harris won by 5.2 there and RFK got 1 point. No third party means that crosses the 5 point threshold)

‘member when Americans apologised to the world for re-electing Bush?

Yeah. They didn’t mean it.

Either that or America wanted a progressive Democrat candidate. We will never know because the second never happens.

If only journalism was this blunt at an earlier point than after he won, again.

Nope, America is and wants to be, a big, racist wagie prison. I hope the jumpsuits are red white and blue.

America is a shit hole. Who could argue at this point?

We are a nation of sad small scared people. Machiavelli was right.

Running as Republican-lite and courting the neocons will just serve to validate right-wing ideologies and strengthen the vote for the real Republican candidate. Harris needed to lean into the Walz platform, but her consultants clearly failed (sabotaged?) her. Add to this the fact that Americans grown to hate standard politicians—at least for president—and it's clear this was Trump's election to lose.

I'm fully ready to admit that America is an Idiocracy. It prefer to stay optimistic about the future, but when the majority of voters choose the Orange Sack of Shit in spite of everything we know about him, they must be fucking idiots. I'm ashamed to be associated with this country anymore. I've actually been anticipating that it will break up and balkanize. The goalposts keep moving but I really think it's inevitable, and I just hope the process isn't an apocalyptic mess.

I used to naively believe that sometimes things need to get bad before they can get good. Like, sometimes someone needs to lie in the gutter first before they are able to look up at the stars…

It seems there’s no floor to how bad things can get.

It’s mostly just all gutter now.

We were so close to electing a president that can speak in complete sentences!