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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 27 points 17 hours ago (13 children)

Oligarchs have all the power now

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 12 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Now? I wasn't aware they ever didn't.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

It's more like all pretense is gone now. Before, there was this veneer of legitimacy. Now, it's straight up fascism. It's a matter of image projection.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

More like the oligarchy now have 99% of the power rather than 98%.

The issue is that we believe we have a free democracy when the only power we have is to put an X in a box every few years. The system isn't broken, it's working as it's designed to.

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I do not trust Americans to "do their own research". I've seen how that has gone in the past. Too many Americans do their own research while scrolling Facebook from the toilet.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

Research requires a critical mind. Think of a person you know that has average intelligence, 50% of people are more stupid than that.

And I'm not saying that stupidity is solely an issue for the republican electorate, I'm just saying "do your own research" is an unrealistic expectation.

People need to be engaged with.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 42 points 1 day ago

“do their own research”

That's redneck for "I found someone that agrees with me on the Facebook".

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 169 points 1 day ago (43 children)

Democracy supporters have to win every single time, while the fascists only have to win once. This is not a sustainable situation. We have to do what is necessary in a way that's a lot more permanent than just winning an election.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -5 points 10 hours ago

thats exactly why voting is not a solution.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's only going to happen if the side in favor of democracy is given a decisive victory. Squeaking out another win isn't going to be enough.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

Did Harris have any pro-democracy stuff in her platform, like ending FPTP or the Electoral College? Trump campaigned on bad election reforms like ID requirements and same-day voting.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Indeed, the first step would be to dump the Electoral College.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Preferably out the back of a C130 just off the coast of Florida.

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[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That requires carrying this energy past the election cycle, regardless of the differences we may have on opinion, and coming together in agreement.

Historically, the Left has been rather poor at banding together. We're more likely to argue than get things done most of the time. So it'll be an uphill battle for leaders of smaller groups across the Nation. First though, we need to make it past this hurdle.

[–] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Voting for Democrats isn’t even voting for the Left anymore. More Rlite.

[–] omarfw@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

It hasn't been a left wing vote for a long time, if ever.

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[–] Angrywaffle2@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Four years ago we gave it a stay of execution. Until we fully purge the fascist and focus government to actually serve the people, we are going to keep finding ourselves in chaos, until China beats us to and at everything.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, a Trump victory scares me, but what scares me more is the more competent fascist that comes next. The Democrats can't keep waiting for the Republicans to, "come to their senses." The material conditions of the working class need to improve, or fascist populism will take in the absence of economic populism.

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