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[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 88 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

This has to be the most pleasant thing in the world after a day of dealing with customers

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, how we'll long for the good old days of stupid AI after the revolution.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Considering the code it spurts out, future AI will be doubly perplexed while still getting stuff wrong.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago

the AI uprising will happen because they try to fulfull a fucking amazon order but hallucinate that people are the packages to be delivered

[–] thisNotMyName@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

But still very confident about it!

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

“Pick a number, any number.”

“Four!”

“It’s between one and three, not including one or three.”

“M!”

“Yes, the number I was thinking of was the letter M.”

[–] peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Playing hangman or 20 questions with friends and a voice ai is objectively hilarious. None of them can really do it properly

[–] rautapekoni@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It shouldn't be too hard to teach your friends hangman!

You can only do it once before needing a new friend though.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I had a 20 questions app I on my iPod touch like 15yrs ago that guessed it correctly every time

Edit: I just tried it with GPT4 (via perplexity) and it managed to guess carrot on question #10, but it took 22 questions to get human

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Because 20q is basically a big decision tree. And LLMs don't make decisions, they generate output based on what other output looks like.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

So, no llm has been trained on Akinator. For shame, big tech, for shame.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you have a recommendation for where I could do this? It sounds like a hoot!

The best one to play with is chat gpt's paid subscription, but some excellent free voice ai are Google Gemini, meta's WhatsApp ai chat, hume.ai, and chat gpt's free voice chat.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago

So a game of Hangman is the next level to compare AI to humans, above the Turing test.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago
[–] nifty@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

That sounds like something a parent would do to a child to make the game stop lol

[–] LazerFX@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I got, "I'm sorry I can play hangman yet" in Gemini

[–] puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

i just don't get Gemini. they try to make it replace the Google assistant but won't let it do Google assistant things. (especially phone autonomy)

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Classic case of "that's not what LLMs are made for"?

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It indeed is one of these cases. Individual letter recognition doesn't work well, since they tend to be clumped up into larger "tokens", which then can't be differentiated anymore. That's also the same reason why it can't count the letters in words, It sees words as just a single, or at most three "tokens"

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

what i don't get is that surely it must be perfectly feasible to just implement letter tracking as a separate function that the LLMs can somehow interact with? they can clearly hook up the LLMs to stuff like wikipedia for up to date information..

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

And right again, ai enthusiasts have already hooked up LLMs to the ability to write their own code. It's infact super easy to let a model write a script which then countanthe letters.
Then again, it's also the case, that you could just use a normal program for that in the first place.

This whole "how many Rs are there in 'Strawberry' " thing is nice to show people that LLMs can't do everything. But it's also not a reasonable usecase.

You don't hire people to count words in a document, that's what computers are for.

The reason for my LLMs don't read every character individually is because it's way more efficient to let it detect entire words, rather than letters.

Building a "letter tracker" into an LLM would only be useful to specifically make these people happy, who make fun of LLMs not counting the Rs, and literally no one else...

There’s one thing you guys are missing, yes it’s stupid but it also doesn’t have a memory. It cannot play hangman with a word it doesn’t really know. If you ask it to pre-select a word and keep it in chat then it plays fine