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[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 month ago (3 children)

in 2017, then-President Donald Trump withdrew from the plan, saying it did not curtail Iran’s ballistic missile program or the influence of Iran’s powerful proxies in the region. Since the U.S. exit, Iran has steadily blown through the restrictions on its nuclear activities and blocked international inspectors from seeing some nuclear sites.

Louder for the people in the back please.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump really is the gift that keeps on giving.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

Like herpes

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you mean, this is biden's fault!!1! He let Iran get the bomb

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope this is sarcasm.

I really don't know anymore. You can put the evidence directly in front of someone's face and they choose to ignore and deny its existence.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Should I have added more exclamation marks and ones to show how serious I was?

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good. With Israel's aggression, Iran deserves a nuclear deterrent. Thank you Trump!

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

The United States has historically empowered Israel as a deterrent to Iran's hostility in the region and towards the US. I agree that defensive measures are necessary but the efforts that Trump has taken go too far to promote the annihilation of non-Jews in the region.

Trump is pure evil. He is measurably worse than anything Biden has done / not done. If you believe otherwise you are forgetting or ignoring the Trump administration.

To thank Trump about this is to thank him for taking steps towards nuclear war.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why change the headline?

Iran signals possible change in its nuclear doctrine and says it has the capacity to make nukes

[–] fukhueson@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It was the headline that loaded when I put the URL in, if I can change the headline to what it currently says I will.

Done.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Lemmy better than Reddit

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago
[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago

Well duh, you didn't think Iran was getting nothing for sending all those drones to Russia, did you?

[–] ZaraL 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good. Hopefully now Israel will think twice about invading a 3rd country.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Israel would never invade Iran.

1 they don't have the manpower

2 there's hundreds of miles of 2 other countries in the way

[–] ZaraL 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Poland was in between Russia and Germany, and Germany didn't have the manpower, they still tried.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Yes that situation famously worked super well for Germany

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 2 points 1 month ago

Oddly, Iranian women showing their hair is the best way to defeat the Iranian regime.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They should. Israel already has nukes and the western powers haven't done jack shit about it. Why wouldn't Iran get some too?

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

They really shouldn’t; simply because we can’t trust Israel to be a rational actor in the region and not perform a “pre-emptive” strike.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's easy to forget that Iran is in close communication with organizations it funds, including Hamas and Hezbollah. How much do they signal to these organizations their readiness for war with Israel? I'd like to know if Hamas leaders had any indication a year ago that it would be a good time to carry out the deadliest ground invasion of Israel in its history.

Iran has been chasing nuclear capability for decades and now they suddenly achieve it?

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

they might have gotten some help from putin in exchange for munitions and other goodies. dprk, too, for that matter.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They have both a ballistic missile and nuclear energy program, and have been developing them for decades. It's a short hop to combine them.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago

Not to mention that, being a decently sizable country, making them is really more a matter of motivation to put in the resources and deal with the diplomatic effects than it is capacity ultimately. Like, North Korea was able to build them with a fraction of the population and economy and as even more of a pariah state, the technology has existed for just about 80 years at this point and while details of the specifics are secret, the basic gist of what they require is well known. Basically any country that isnt a microstate probably could build a few eventually, if they really wanted to spend all the money

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago

you're overthinking it. yesterday an alleged draft text of ceasefire deal between israel and lebanon was doing rounds on twitter and telegram