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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 99 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Having met Greta through our respective autism support communities, it feels weird that I still think of her as a kid. She can buy alcohol now!

I had a good feeling she'd end up a comrade.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 36 points 4 days ago

She's been able to buy alcohol for three years

Yeah I've heard good things about her from people who have met her too, glad to see it reflected here

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 80 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Greta Thunberg has been the most pleasant surprise of recent history. She is amazing.

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 48 points 4 days ago

Light itself, but like, unironically

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 93 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She's amazing.

Has she ever pointed out that the main economic reason that the US needs Israel is to destabilize Middle Eastern countries with large oil reserves? I think that's a really powerful argument for her audience and I'm a little sad not to see her explain that connection here.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 72 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, I'm glad to see a change. For all my life, I've heard "oil oil oil" behind every US action, and while that might be part of the thing, it's far from the whole picture and her tweet calling imperialism by its name is kinda what we need if you ask me

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[–] a_little_red_rat@hexbear.net 60 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I live in sweden and the divide on Greta is hilarious. On one hand you have reactionaries who STILL put stickers like "fuck you greta!" on their shitty cars, on the other you have lib climate activists who seem downright scared of her more based activism and talk about her "having gone too far" in hushed voices. Only ppl I've met that like her now are either MLs or hardcore anarchists. Imagine if she would join a marxist org

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 39 points 4 days ago (13 children)

How does one 23 year old with no army "go too far"?

Libs.

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[–] nightshade@hexbear.net 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If this keeps up we might get a Part 3 to this meme.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 62 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Greta start posting on hexbear

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 55 points 4 days ago

She's not enough of a LIB to post here

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 56 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Shit, Hexbear is old. I remember people here discussing how we shouldn't be too critical of her because she was still a child. Now she's a young woman and we still shouldn't be too critical of her because she's right. I hope the rest of the generation tries to emulate it.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's good that we were right about her longterm trajectory though!

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 78 points 4 days ago (11 children)

There is no doubt that one of the candidates - Trump - is way more dangerous than the other

In no way judging Greta here, but I have doubts I-was-saying

Dick Cheney scares me far more than Donald Trump does. Cheney has caused far more death and destruction, and is much more effective in his evil deeds. When both candidates are pro-war and genocide, I think the side with Dick Cheney’s endorsement scares me more.

This is compounded by the fact that Republicans face more opposition than Democrats when they do evil things, and Trump more than the average Republican. Do you think the George Floyd protests would’ve been nearly as big if Biden had been president at the time? Absolutely not. Both at an institutional and public level, Trump, by nature of being icky, pisses people off and it makes his schemes harder to pull off. When Biden does the exact same things, he does them to thunderous applause.

Roe was overturned under Biden. More people have been deported by Biden. Biden ended covid protections, and more people have died from covid because of him. And most importantly, Biden is the architect of the Gazan genocide.

I’ve said before that voting for Kamala over Trump is voting to re-elect Hitler to prevent Goebbels from getting into office, but I’m starting to think it’s more like voting for Hitler to prevent Kaiser Wilhelm from getting back into office. Like yeah, he sucked dick and did a bunch of evil shit, but Hitler is currently doing the Holocaust.

[–] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 58 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I don't really get the idea that people are somehow going to be 'more against' the genocide in Gaza because Trump is in office. Sure, people protested for George Floyd. You know what they didn't protest at all? The killing of Soleimani. In fact I can't think of a single foreign policy initiative that liberals protested other than the visit with Kim Jong-Un, the only good foreign policy thing that Trump did during his presidency.

The people that are currently protesting the Gaza genocide will continue to protest no matter who is in office. The people who are not are not going to have some sort of come to Jesus moment because the cheeto got elected.

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[–] REgon@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

brigading smh what's all these libs doing brigading on our thread? And they're so rude and condescending! Don't they know their ideology has never worked? It always collapses into fascism!

Waiting for the inevitable "Greta is a Russian assett" think piece.

Or in a more infantilizing way "Has been influenced by Russian propaganda"

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 69 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Well I'll be goddamned. I genuinely didn't think she'd ever have it in her to get even this far.

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 62 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Well, the autism is a bit of a boost in actually getting to the root of the problem rather than getting stuck in the neurotypical bounds of respectability and milque toast solutions.

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[–] Angel@hexbear.net 58 points 4 days ago (17 children)
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 59 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is why I say the two parties are american-supremacists vs white-supremacists.

This person fundamentally believes that american lives are more important and valuable than anyone else's lives around the world. They are an american-supremacist without self-awareness.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 66 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Greta Thunberg isn't even an American lol

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 60 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

sitting this election out by voting third party

Voting is actually not voting you see, but also not voting is actually votingtheory-gary

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 60 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Incredible, all of the cracker lib talking points, complete with a promise to stand by and watch

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 45 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Someone in the replies called her a selfish white supremacist and got (as of now) 34 likes for it. Her copey ass response to it got much less than that, so that's something.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 65 points 4 days ago

Palestine is suffering, yes,

White Supremacy. These motherfuckers have no solidarity, and will use LGBTQ and POC as a cudgel to maintain Empire. Rainbow Imperialism in a nutshell. JB-shining-aggro

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[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 70 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Greta progressively getting more based is fun to see, maybe the kids are alright?

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[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 46 points 4 days ago

Just missing a little Maoist Standard English

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

~~164~~ 200+ comments? Did the dumbass libs find this post or are we having a struggle sesh about Greta?

predictions for if it's libs

  • More than one person thinking they're "as far left as they come" and therefore assume we must be Trump supporters if we hate Harris. Will result in some comment like "your boy Drump"
  • The trolley problem from a person who has already had it explained to them how it's not a trolley problem if they're both equally shit, just because they keep saying Harris' isn't as shit
  • The trolley problem again.
  • The trolley problem again.
  • Following these last few days, no libs will engage with the people pointing out how Harris is as bad as trump
  • "Voting for third party is wasted"
  • Voter fraud (By not voting for Harris I am voting for Trump, by not voting for Trump I am voting for Harris, letting me vote two times)
  • "The genocide would be worse!"
  • One person admitting by accident they are fine with palestinians being genocided
  • Just immense amounts of long-ago debunked propaganda

predictions for strugglesesh

  • "Revisionism"
  • More PPB deployed than if it had been libs (no way to know, but you can feel it if it happens)
  • She's hiding her power levels vs. she's not hiding her powerlevels
  • Devolving into another barely related struggle session
  • A bad joke about scandinavia
  • People talking past each other, one side focusing on what good she does, the other focusing on it not being at all enough to change-da-world-1change-da-world-2

edit:
It was the libs.
A little primer for triggered libs:

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[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 49 points 4 days ago

I had her written off, but I'm down with Tankie Greta

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 44 points 4 days ago

I was like kid Greta as kid, but then turned into a lib as I got older. Glad she didn't make that mistake.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's a welcome change, but she still isn't firm enough. To make her message more firm:

  1. The first paragraph needs to be taken out. You can't say voting is pointless (true) while hyping up this election at the same time.

  2. "There is no doubt that one of the candidates - Trump - is way more dangerous than the other." That's just her capitulating to lesser-evilers. Trump isn't "way more dangerous" than Harris at all outside of him being a shittier imperialist to the imperialist project. As Black revolutionary Imam Jamil Al-Amin said, "Evil is evil. There's nothing in between that."

  3. "With this in mind, my main message to Americans is to remember that you cannot only settle for the least worst option." She needs to get rid of the "only."

To me, it looks like either her original message was a lot firmer but got watered down by one of her close associates who changed her mind/edited the message or she is personally conflicted and hasn't fully crossed the bridge to give up on lesser-evilism.

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[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 48 points 4 days ago (3 children)

what if greta was one of us

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 49 points 4 days ago

Invite her to hexbear and crash the site lol

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 43 points 4 days ago

She's a good kid, giving me hope for the future.

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