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The Democrats are completely incapable of leading the fight back against the rise of Trump and figures like him. (lemmy.ml)
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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Neither are the socialists, who aren't even on the ballot in enough states to win ANYTHING.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yup. Their goal is to help elect Trump. ~~One of them~~ a self-described socialist who supports Jill Stein from my state even said so outright.

Edit: looks like some of you might not believe me. Here.

And here's a more direct source, but it has a paywall.

(Edited for accuracy)

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

  1. She said that she wants to defeat Harris, not elect Trump.

  2. She's supporting Jill Stein, who is not a socialist.

  3. Her party, Socialist Alternative, is a different party from the one who is running de la Cruz.

She isn't speaking for de la Cruz or Jill Stein or even Socialist Alternative. She's speaking for herself only, and she's not even saying what you claim she's saying.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

  1. That's exactly the same thing and you know it and she knows it.

  2. True, but all 3rd party candidates who are running in the general election are there to be a spoiler. Even RFK jr. dropped out and dropped the mask as soon as he realized he was spoiling the wrong side.

  3. You're right that she's not campaigning for de la Cruz, but she still said the quiet part out loud about supporting 3rd party candidates in general. (And Sawant uses the word socialist to describe herself regardless of specific party, I hadn't realized that she wasn't in the main one, thank you. That's why I used 'one of them' incorrectly.)

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

How do you run for president without trying to defeat Harris?

Everybody who is running is trying to defeat Harris...except for Harris. (And lately I've been having my doubts about even that.)