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Bro consuming enough caffeine to paralyze an elephant. Any yerba-mate drinkers on hexbear? I'm looking for a source of caffeine cheaper than coffee. Last two months I've seen the largest food price increase since the pandemic and coffee is just about off the menu at this point. I kept going cheaper but I realized that as you go down the cost structure the coffee has less caffeine (img below) and I'm at diminishing return level now. Yerba-mate is a sub tropical woody long growing plant so even If I could grow it I probably wouldn't be able to get enough caffeine out of one plant but if I can get seeds I might give it a try. Amazon has a 4.4 lb bag for $19. Thats much cheaper than coffee but I can't get good info on how mate compares lb for lb wrt caffeine.

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[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Rio Grande do Sul looking guy

There is a big difference between Brasilian-style yerba and Argie/Paraguayan-style yerba, I reccomend you to try both and choose.

It's the same plant species but the brasilian is almost pulverized and has no "maturation", few days between harvest and supermarket. Meanwhile paraguayan/argie yerba is stored for at least 3 months in big bales after being dried, and the amount of yerba-dust in the final product should be reduced to a minimum. Said dust is supposedly the reason why some people get more acid-reflux. Anyways, each yerba style has quality tiers, "premium" argie yerba has like a year of maturation.

Btw don't buy from Estancia Las Marias cuz they assasinated ~~slaves~~ workers during the last dictatorship among a long list of other feudal shenanigans

In any case, I recommend start with drinking mate cocido, basically tea but using a small amount of yerba instead of tea

[–] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Have you considered roasting your own coffee? It can be done in just a pan stirring with a spoon. happymugcoffee.com has a few coffees around $4/lb. and even cheaper when you buy in bulk

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

What the hell is with that coffee chart? The sizes are all different and some include espresso shots?

And wtf? 2 Tablespoons for 12 ounces? That's a pot's worth!

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you considered just drinking double espressos on the occasion you have to buy coffee? It’s much cheaper where I am then getting lattes or whatever. At home I just drink tea, tea is hella cheap

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

oh are they talking about trying to figure out a cheaper alternative than buying fresh made coffee from coffee shops? literally anything is cheaper than that. I make espresso at home. sometimes french press. i used to just make drip coffee at home until my drip coffee machine broke.

make coffee at home. duh. only crazy rich people or idiots buy coffee from coffee shops all the time.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe not? But it seemed that way from that spreadsheet of prices lol

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can buy caffeine acetate, weigh it (with a very precise scale) and put it into whatever food you want

[–] WilsonWilson@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I might have to try that. 500 100mg tabs on amazon for $9.99 and if avg cup has 100mg than 500 cups vs 30 cups for a lb of coffee

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

my gf and I take a caffeine pill in the am sometimes instead of coffee. works just the same. I think the pills are cheaper than coffee. we just get them at walmart.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Cheapest caffeine source will be pills

I drink mate and enjoy it. You have to get the special straw. The organic stuff on Amazon is pretty good, just not the yellow one, I forget what it's called starts with a Y I think. That has a ton of stems and stuff in it, poor qc

Edit: guayaki is the one you don't want

[–] frankfurt_schoolgirl@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think that large scale yerba-mate production your be an interesting project, but buying a hand grinder, a French press, and some cheap coffee beans might be a whole lot easier. If you don't have time to make fresh coffee in the morning you can prepare cold brew the night before.