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Now if only they could more clearly communicate when games are playable offline.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Is this a Linux problem? I've never had to look for this detail before in Windows.

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[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 357 points 1 week ago (25 children)

Ooh and it's a giant yellow banner you probably won't miss, and not some two-shades-ligher-than-the-background nonsense.

Good job, Valve.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 115 points 1 week ago

They do this with Early Access and people still lose their shit about empty content and unfinished graphics in a game they paid $10 for.

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 136 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

However, it's only being forced for kernel-level anti-cheat. If it's only client-side or server-side, it's optional, but Valve say "we generally think that any game that makes use of anti-cheat technology would benefit from letting players know".

I will always love Valve for their ability to use corpospeak against corpos.

Your game has anti-cheat?

Wonderful!

I'm sure that always only results in an improved experience for all gamers, lets let them all know!

=D

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[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 104 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s awesome! GTA V just screwed everyone on Linux! What a rug pull.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 148 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

Adding kernel malware after the fact should entitle every single owner who requests one to a full refund no matter how long has passed.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

Full agree. I do want some kind of policy for games that introduce anti-cheat both during early access and after release. Bricking a game you paid for should offer some sort of recourse.

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[–] vordalack@lemm.ee 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Any program having kernel level access is spyware. This is getting ridiculous.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like they're doing this because they are going so hard with steam deck. Regardless, good on Valve for doing this.

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[–] Woodstock@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Can someone explain like I’m stupid on kernel level anti cheat and why I should watch out for it? Not a dig at all, a genuine question!

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Imagine a game having higher privileges than what you get with "Run as administrator"

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 103 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

To put it very simply, the 'kernel' has significant control over your OS as it essentially runs above everything else in terms of system privileges.

It can (but not always) run at startup, so this means if you install a game with kernel-level anticheat, the moment your system turns on, the game's publisher can have software running on your system that can restrict the installation of a particular driver, stop certain software from running, or, even insidiously spy on your system's activity if they wished to. (and reverse-engineering the code to figure out if they are spying on you is a felony because of DRM-related laws)

It basically means trusting every single game publisher with kernel-level anticheat in their games to have a full view into your system, and the ability to effectively control it, without any legal recourse or transparency, all to try (and usually fail) to stop cheating in games.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And it's worth noting that trusting the game developer isn't really enough. Far too many of them have been hacked, so who's to say it's always your favorite game developer behind the wheel?

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[–] barlescharkley@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago

More importantly, if traditional anticheat has a bug, your game dies. Oh no.

If kernel level anticheat has a bug, your computer blue screens (that's specifically what the blue screen is: a bug in the kernel, not just an ordinary bug that the system can recover from). Much worse. Sure hope that bug only crashes your computer when the game is running and not just whenever, because remember a kernel-level program can be running the moment your computer boots as above poster said

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

Common valve W

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