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[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago

this would essentially kill my method of viewing videos on the platform, this isn't a boost to interaction they think it will be, it will ultimately result in me watching less videos as I won't have the ability to decipher trash from good, so I'll just stick with content creators that I am used to and no longer branch out like I currently do.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good thing we have Youtube alternatives. The two biggest ones are Odysee & Rumble. Also we have Peertube. The problem with Peertube is people don't use it. So it haves less content on it.

If you're going to watch Youtube, use a Frontend. For same reason Privacy Guides don't have Grayjay on it.

[–] downdaemon@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Odyssey is all fascists and crypto bros

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago

Isn't rumble the same? Lul what the fuck is going on with the world.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

You can find electroboom in Big Clive on there.

Outside of that it's pretty much a write off

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[–] alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who makes these retarded decisions?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 21 points 1 week ago
[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

As someone who tries to regularly post videos on YouTube I think this would help me, since I'm sure many people (including me, unfortunately) avoid low view count videos.

But I can absolutely understand why you wouldn't want it hidden. I'm sure this will lead to major misinformation clickbaiting (as if that isn't already a problem!), but I believe that the view count will still be visible on the view page.

Is YouTube doing it with small creators actually in mind? Who knows, other than them?

Edit: I do want to clarify that I think hiding the date it was posted is just strange and would probably only lead to problems

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don’t like this idea for the opposite reason. I'm one of the people who are suspicious of videos with millions of views since most of them look manufactured. We all use view counts to gauge if a video is something we’re after, probably in more ways than we can come up with.

If it gives you any encouragement - I’m not discouraged by view counts. I know I like niche stuff and give small channels a try. It’s a chance at having more genuine interaction. As long as a video is not off-putting due to bad diction or very bad production then I’m not going to back out and see what it is about. This can work to your advantage too.

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[–] golli@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Is YouTube doing it with small creators actually in mind? Who knows, other than them?

I am pretty confident in guessing that they are not doing it for selfless reasons. Imo the reason is that the less information they give the user, the more you are beholden to the algorithm choosing for you.

But depending how they hide it it actually might not just be users, but also companies that e.g. buy ads from them. The less information they get, the more they need to trust whatever metric google offers them

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That makes sense. Youtube has mixed more and more small channels with low views into my feed for a couple of months.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't understand why they on such a self destruct path?! I already barely use this fucking platform anymore because of how shitty it has become already, and now they want to bait me into watching some low views garbage on top of all that? WHY?!

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because when you get pissed off at one shitty video and click off it to find a better one, that's free real estate in which to double your ads.

And what are you gonna do? Go to Peertube? YouTube is too gigantic to have a real competitor no matter how much we try. It is a beast so massive and bloated at this point that we just can't kill it without legislative interference. And Google knows damn well that they're basically the only game in town so they aren't afraid of significant user backlash.

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[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The money must grow.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lmfao, fuck it, why not remove titles, tags and the searchbar too if you only want them to watch the videos your algo hand picks.

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let's just remove all video metadata including author. You just get video that is unskippable and you have to watch it (and ads) before getting a new video. Webcam required to track your eyeballs and the video will only play while you are looking at the screen.

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[–] Computerchairgeneral@fedia.io 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks Youtube, I hate it. Like I can see some arguments for taking away the view counter, even if I think it's a bad decision. But the date the video was uploaded? Who does that even help? I guess Youtubers will either need to start properly dating their videos or we'll just have to use context clues to figure out when a video was uploaded.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But the date the video was uploaded? Who does that even help?

There's gaming content that expires within a month, especially with frequent balance and other game changes, like with League of Legends. I won't watch a video that's weeks old because what's being featured probably doesn't work anymore after a patch.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago

Time for Peertube

[–] brap@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (8 children)

How about you test marking videos as watched across devices so I don’t have the same shit pushed back at me all the time.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago

HOW ABOUT YOU STOP SHOWING ME ALREADY WATCHED VIDEOS IN GENERAL?! Why fill my home feed with shit I've seen already? I literally have to click (...), click (not interested), click (why?), click (I've already seen the video) FOR EVER SINGLE VIDEO I EVER WATCHED ON YT.

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why? Is everything going to shit? Like counts, view counts, dislikes .. I suppose it won't change anything for me on reVanced, but still.. why?

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

Their ~~top minds~~ data scientists figured it’d be easier to manipulate users this way.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 17 points 1 week ago

Ok, this one is really stupid. Dislikes? Ok. Views? Fuck all the way off, Google.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

In the future you’ll pay $900/mo to stare at a blank page.

And you’ll have to because all the free sites are entirely ads.

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[–] Rob200@lemmings.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know why they might be hiding upload dates? My theory is, Youtube doesn’t really want you looking at new stuff. (Very apparent by the algorithm) they want you looking at specific news stories, and specific content but not constantly seeking new uploads from independents.

But that is just a theory a plain theory. Thanks for watching.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 28 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I hate how now when I watch a bunch of videos from a creator, my YouTube feed ends up only having that creators videos, like yeah I'm enjoying this person, but I do like to watch other things as well.

It feels like I'm being forced into an echo chamber.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The one that gets me is watching a new creator to me on a subject I'm interest in e.g. gaming and it turns out that said creator so has a right wing nut job catalogue and that's all that fella my feed for the next two weeks.

My time is limited I just want to relax on my down time and ain't interested in rage bait but that's all yhe algorithm seems to want to show me every chance it gets by me clicking on a new name

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I've encountered so many AI generated videos that now I have to depend on view count since they removed dislike. And even view count doesn't work as well because people click on just to see why there are high view counts, turns out it's an AI video with high view count. Absolutely terrible practice. Youtube knows, they're not stopping

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And you (user) will accept all of it without questioning and maybe they let you watch some video between the ads.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does TikTok show view count? This seems like a move that is intended to compete with TikTok.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago

TikTok shows view, like and favourite/bookmark amounts.

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