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A memo circulating in Donald Trump’s orbit says that if elected he should use private firms to check appointees’ backgrounds and give them immediate access to classified secrets after taking office.

This is exactly what you'd do if your circle was filled with Russian agents.

American and want to stop this? Vote for Harris & volunteer for her campaign

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 162 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Remember folks, SCOTUS has already ruled that WHATEVER THE FUCK HE DOES IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL.

There is no court, not law, no constitution, no one and nothing to protect us. This will be the last election if he wins.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 98 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 52 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Take that quote and add the one about sending the military after people who are a problem to them, that's absolutely the end of anything resembling our country.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Take that an consider he freaked out about 60k "to burry a fucking mexican" when speaking of an american soldier of mexican descent raped and murdered by another solider. If he can say that about an american citizen sacrificing everything for their country, he can decide who is american or not in an instant.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

This one probably would have been accepted, anyway. Security clearances and classification derive from the power of the Executive in the first place. If the President wants to unilaterally hand security clearances to anyone, there was never anything to stop that besides the fact that it's a horrible idea.

Far too much power is invested in the Executive, and that was already a problem decades before Trump was around.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 64 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking traitor

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

this is just fucking terrifying

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The issue is no one believes it. Inertia makes the world go round. Inertia isn’t just physics, it’s psychology.

They’re so inured in “you can’t do that here” that they’ll believe it right up to when he does it.

Then cognitive dissonance takes the helm.

The fuel from being skeeved out by trans people and a black President got that momentum. Now, everyone’s miserable not being able to afford life, so that will continue that push.

I think he’s winning. I don’t live in the echo chamber. I think he’s horrible. But I think he’s winning.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It is really scary how close the race is and how far he is in the lead with a lot of polls.

People out here talking about sitting this one out or throwing a protest vote out for a third party. I'm just shaking my head.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These people seem to think if they don't vote, the Democrats will face some kind of reckoning because the voters are not "endorsing" them. I'm not sure how that's supposed to work or what anyone is then supposed to do about it under a fascist dictatorship. In fact, it's so obviously nonsense that you have to wonder whether these people have other motives that they're not stating.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

It’s be the end all be all “leopards ate my face” moment.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

What if I told you it benefits the media companies (mostly run by Republican supporters) if it always looks like it's neck and neck. It doesn't actually get the right voters out.

Fuck what the media says the count is, just vote ppl

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It really depends which state they vote from, and which side they vote for.

If you're a democrat in idaho.......why even bother? The electoral college at that point insures that if you vote for a democrat, your vote doesn't matter.

However, if you vote 3rd party it sends the message that you KNOW your vote doesn't matter, and the system is broken.

Now, if you're in a swing state, or even a state that could be a swing state, then you're just an asshole if you vote 3rd party.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As we've recently found out in the last few years, conservative bastions are not as solidly red as we believe. If you're a Democrat in Idaho, fucking vote Democratic. It matters.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Absolutely, I'm in Texas, which is considered a slam dunk for the GOP. I still voted for Allred and for Harris. If there's a chance to get rid of Ted Cruz, I'm not going to risk it.

And of course, flipping Texas Blue in the presidential election would be a major coup. It's unlikely, but not impossible, if the voter turnout is high enough.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, if you guys could manage to kick Ted Cruz out, that alone would be a major win.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I honestly don't understand how he's so popular even among Republicans. He's a coward and the worst kind of political opportunist who is more concerned with his own image than helping Texans.

I'm doing everything that I can to get out the vote in Texas and encouraging people to vote early. With the gerrymandered districts here it's tough to make a real change, but when it comes to the Senate every vote counts.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

I have relatives. They don’t believe Jan 6 was an insurrection. They’re saying Kamala is only there because she sucked her way to the top. They’re constantly talking about trans. And that litter boxes in schools thing. They think any defense if Hamas or anyone associated with them is deranged, that Israel wants to be left alone and no one will leave them alone and that’s why they’re doing what they’re doing. That we should spend the Ukraine money domestically, stop finding them. That gas prices and food prices and house prices and health care prices are Biden’s fault. And that liberals talk down to them and should thus get punched. Replacement theory. Oh, and guns.

That prices will somehow go down to pre-2020 if trump is back. No, really. Return of trump means return to pricing in the 2016-2020 zone. I’m not joking, these guys really believe that. I can define inflation all day and it doesn’t matter, no sway on that one. So that, in part, is what they’re voting for, a return of pre 2020 pricing.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Local matters right now, big time. Getting in those reps in the legislature and possibly the senate.

Florida was damn close in 2016. So don’t count yourself out for both, there. I think part of the problem there might be snowbirds, but will they even be going this year?

None of us know. So just vote.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 weeks ago

didn't he already do this before for his son-in-law (jared kushner)... after the feds rejected him?

yea, the same jared kushner that scored $2 billion from the saudis as an 'investment'.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck. This. Fucker.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Gee, why would that be necessary? I'm sure no one he would tap would have recently been involved in any insurrections or under the employ of a foreign government.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

he gave them to people that the fbi said shouldn't have them. scotus said he could do anything officially he wants. so why would he bother with a screening process? he's going to give them to whoever he wants to anyway.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Because by having a private company "screen" people there's added corruption.

He gets to simply sell clearances to private companies.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Which is one of many reasons it's important to not elect him.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

I assume the POTUS, who is the source of all classification, could have always just given clearance to whomever they wanted. I doubt the scotus ruling has anything to do with this.

[–] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

He’s such a moron that you could just give him a piece of construction paper that says, “FBI, CIA, Delta Force Security Clearance” written in orange crayon and he would be satisfied.

[–] commandar@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is yet another example of our system fundamentally being incapable of dealing with someone like Trump willing to deviate from all established norms.

Legally, POTUS is the classifying authority. They can give clearance to whomever they want.

That's worked mostly fine since the classification system was established in the early 1950s because the assumption has always been that POTUS isn't wildly compromised and completely surrounded by compromised individuals.

Oops.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Republicans in 2003: we must do everything in our power to make Americans safe. If we have to give up essential liberties and invade other countries because they might have WMDs, so be it.

Republicans in 2024: it's fine to hand out security clearances after a Heritage Foundation signoff.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And now, thanks to the supreme court, he, and any other fucked up president, can.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

He did that last time… despite FBI vetting.

[–] jared@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Blasphemy, using Mr. Rodgers like that!

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

he gave them to people that the fbi said shouldn't have them. scotus said he could do anything officially he wants. so why would he bother with a screening process? he's going to give them to whoever he wants to anyway.

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