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    Okay this is cool and all, but why would systemd have a calendar?

    (also how do i do this)

    [–] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 240 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Oh fuck. I'll use this from now on. Except for if I won't use it next week. Then I'll forget about it because my memory is a damn sieve.

    [–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 121 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Just take the next step and make a text file you dump all these commands into and then forget about in a week. When you randomly stumble across it years from now you’ll be able to say “wow, I could have used this 10 months ago if I remembered it existed!”

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I make a separate text file per command so I can search them!

    Which I dont.

    [–] variants@possumpat.io 32 points 1 week ago

    I usually print these out and put them in a safe deposit box at a bank so I never lose them

    [–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago

    We can store those text files in a terminal and search for them from the command line with man command!

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    [–] Technofrood@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago

    Use a systemd timer to send yourself a reminder. Discoverd them recently myself and honestly liking them more than cron.

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    [–] _____@lemm.ee 118 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    me: systemd is not that bloated

    systemd:

    [–] exu@feditown.com 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    You need a calendar and time handling anyways for logging purposes and to set timers correctly. It's likely not that much extra work exposing that functionality.

    [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    No, UNIX philosophy demands that every single one of those things is one or more separate things and that half of them are poorly or not at all maintained. Just like God intended.

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    [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Try scheduling a cron tab job to run a task on dates defined that way.

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    [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

    I think this is for setting date oriented timers

    [–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 98 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Usually such things have a simple explanation. systemd does a lot with time and date, for example scheduling tasks. It's quite obvious that it has this capabilities, when you think about it.

    [–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Usually such things have a simple explanation. systemd does a lot ~~with time and date, for example scheduling tasks. It's quite obvious that it has this capabilities, when you think about it.~~

    FTFY

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    [–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 88 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    systemd is a great operating system, it just lacks a decent text editor.

    [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Good thing it's editor agnostic so everybody can do the right thing in the end and choose nano

    [–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)
    [–] John@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)
    [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    ed is the standard text editor.

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    [–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

    alias systemd-texted=micro

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    [–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago

    Thanks! I hate this. 🖤

    [–] PanArab@lemm.ee 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

    systemd is the future, and the future has been here for over a decade and yet old Unix and BSD purists still cry about it

    I have one simple thing to say to the downvoters: I am not using a minicomputer from 1970, why should I be bound by the limits set then?

    [–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 41 points 1 week ago

    Yeah, I'm also one of these people silently enjoying systemd and wayland. Every now and then there's fuzz on one of these. I shrug, and move on still enjoying both of them.

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    [–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 46 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    In the UK, if Christmas or New Year falls on a weekend, a seperate equivalent holiday is made during the week to compensate.

    [–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Wait, do other countries not do this? So if a public holiday falls on a Saturday it doesn't get pushed to Monday?

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    Germany doesn't do this, but the minimum, when all holidays fall on the worst possible days, is more than the number of holidays in the UK.

    [–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 day ago

    Netherlands doesn't do this, and we have less holidays then UK haha

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    [–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 week ago

    That's pretty clever.

    [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

    Finally we can put all the controversy around systemd to rest.

    [–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

    Well. I mean, that's pretty cool. I don't think I would have ever guess that was an actual function from systemd but here we are

    [–] frezik@midwest.social 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    This plays some kind of role in the debate of systemd being good or not. I'm not sure if goes in the good column or the bad column, but I know it goes into a column.

    [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I am typically in the group saying "systemd is overlarge with too many responsibilities" but this capability makes perfect sense for its job running services. Probably the good column.

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    [–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Well, systemd developers made one of the classic blunders a software developer can do: make a program that has to deal with time and dates. Every time I have to deal with timestamps I'm like "oh shit, here we go again".

    Anyway, as I understood it the reason this is in systemd is because they wanted to replace cron, and it's fine by me because cron has it's own brain-hurt. (The cron syntax is something that always makes me squint real hard for a while.)

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    [–] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago

    This is basically just a way nicer, more flexible cron syntax being dressed up as something ridiculous. There are legitimate reasons for wanting something like this, like running some sort of resource heavy disk optimization the first Friday evening of every month or something.

    [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    It is literally happening this year.

    24th is Tuesday. 1st of January is Wednesday and as a bonus Jan 6 is also a holiday in my country and that's Monday.

    So from dec 22 to jan 6 i can be home by using just 6 days off

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    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    God, I only have one question...

    Why?

    [–] alteredEnvoy@sopuli.xyz 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Did you know the next Friday the 13th is in December? ChatGPT didn't know it. (I had to give it an extra date.now for it to figure it out)

    [–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 week ago

    Damn and does it work as an init too? xD.

    [–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
    $ systemd-analyze calendar tomorrow
    Failed to parse calendar specification 'tomorrow': Invalid argument
    Hint: this expression is a valid timestamp. Use 'systemd-analyze timestamp "tomorrow"' instead?
    $ systemd-analyze timestamp tuesday
    Failed to parse "tuesday": Invalid argument
    Hint: this expression is a valid calendar specification. Use 'systemd-analyze calendar "tuesday"' instead?
    

    ಠ_ಠ

    $ for day in Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat Sun; do TZ=UTC systemd-analyze calendar "$day 02-29"|tail -2; done
        Next elapse: Mon 2044-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 19 years 4 months left
        Next elapse: Tue 2028-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 3 years 4 months left
        Next elapse: Wed 2040-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 15 years 4 months left
        Next elapse: Thu 2052-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 27 years 4 months left
        Next elapse: Fri 2036-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 11 years 4 months left
        Next elapse: Sat 2048-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 23 years 4 months left
        Next elapse: Sun 2032-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 7 years 4 months left
    

    still image from "Zach Galifianakis Math" gif, with Zach looking contemplative with math notation floating in front of his face

    (It checks out.)

    Surprisingly its calendar specification parser actually allows for 31 days in every month:

    $ TZ=UTC systemd-analyze calendar '02-29' && echo OK || echo not OK
      Original form: 02-29
    Normalized form: *-02-29 00:00:00
        Next elapse: Tue 2028-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 3 years 4 months left
    OK
    $ TZ=UTC systemd-analyze calendar '02-30' && echo OK || echo not OK
      Original form: 02-30
    Normalized form: *-02-30 00:00:00
        Next elapse: never           
    OK
    $ TZ=UTC systemd-analyze calendar '02-31' && echo OK || echo not OK
      Original form: 02-31
    Normalized form: *-02-31 00:00:00
        Next elapse: never           
    OK
    $ TZ=UTC systemd-analyze calendar '02-32' && echo OK || echo not OK
    Failed to parse calendar specification '02-32': Invalid argument
    not OK
    
    [–] humblebun@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

    No Christmas for 5 years?? Why are you doing this to us, systemd???

    [–] subignition@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago

    That's actually really cool!

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