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It's the same story every four years: Liberals say you MUST hold your nose and vote for Democrats. Chomsky, Mehdi Hasan, and that guy from Know Your Enemy podcast come to mind. If you don't vote, the worst will happen, like gloves-off fascism. My argument is that the Dems have a shitty record doing anything to stop fascism anyway (or simply conduce it!), with Gaza's destruction, raising police budgets, strengthening the military, increasing deportations, teasing the border wall, etc. I am also looking at a headline now about Kamala "Offering Trans People Almost Nothing." Nevertheless, liberals are very much invested in hypotheticals right now: If Trump wins, everything will be worse in those examples above. I'm not voting for Democrats anyway, but if pressed: What would you say the most realistic doomsday scenarios of a Trump win would be? I lack the imagination here, because while I wouldn't say the parties are 100% identical, the Dems have zero problems always moving further and further to the right (today they're the party of Cheney and Bush's cabinet, lol).

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[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The current doomsday refrain I have heard from my liberals is a fear/expectation that they, personally, will be put into camps.

(Note: their only opinion about these camps is that they will exist under Trump, and the only thing that can or should be done to prevent this is to vote blue)

[–] FugaziArchivist@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

yes, sounds almost verbatim what I heard

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dems already do fascism they say Republicans want to do they are just polite about it and act like the policies they impose on the marginalized as just good and technocratic.

[–] FugaziArchivist@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

if only the libs I know could see that

[–] bananymous@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

There are few things I despise more than political parties, but political party apologists are among them.