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Was just watching Raxx's video where I first heard this.

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[–] RickRussell_CA@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Season 29... of a video game?

I'm kind of glad I don't play in whatever ecosystem that is. It sounds exhausting.

[–] finishsneezing@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Too many people just accept it. Maybe due to an apparent lack of alternatives, fomo and some sort of sunk cost fallacy addiction.

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sunk cost fallacy is hard to see happening in a game where each season resets your characters

[–] finishsneezing@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not with money, but time and effort.

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes that's also what I'm talking about
Your previous characters aren't important anymore, it's a fresh start all the time. On each new season there has been 0 previous time and effort investment

You have on the game as a whole, though. Mechanics, strategies, locations, weapons, lore, maybe friendships with other players. Hard to leave all that behind.

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Diablo seasons are just a character reset for those who enjoy them. It's a huge part of a lot of ARPGs like Path of Exile or Diablo. As you can reach endgame in about 5 hours on diablo and have your complete build in 20, it makes sense.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does the season do differently that you can't do by just selecting a new character option from the main menu?

[–] Silverhand@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enforces everyone to reset at the same time and not use gear and stuff from previous characters. Some people care about leaderboards and those usually reset at the same time. For other ARPGs with a trade economy that being reset is often the biggest draw, but that doesn't apply to D3.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But if you can complete a character in 20 hours, why not just have daily and weekly leaderboards? Why even have arbitrary seasons?

[–] fffera@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I couldn't give less of a fuck about leaderboards, but I enjoy seasons in D3, but not D4. In D3 you get to max level and get a set of pretty good gear in a few hours. I'm a casual player, I don't play the entirety of the season because I kinda hit my limit and stop getting new shiny things and don't feel like pushing it so I stop playing. Then a new season comes out, I'm like "I haven't played Diablo in a bit, that sounds fun" and I do the same thing, smash monsters and get shiny things.

In D4 the new season landed and I just couldn't be bothered to level again and it really killed the game for me, I'm kinda maxed out on non-seasonal, it gets to the point where you're doing the same thing over and over for hours, or you push harder content where it takes forever to kill something and everything kills you in one hit. I just want to smash shit and get loot, I don't want to level again if it takes more than a couple hours.

Basically seasons can be fun (also they test new content, that keeps things fresh) as long as you can jump right back into the game. Without it you have a ton of legendary items for every class so you just never really need new gear, you just grind for that single piece you need for a 2% upgrade.

Tldr I don't want to grind, I just want to smash baddies, and I'm basically a bird collecting shiny shit. D3 enables that, D4 doesn't. It's all about implementation.

[–] MooMix@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] admin@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you care to elaborate?

[–] MooMix@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Department_of_Fair_Employment_and_Housing_v._Activision_Blizzard

Basically Activation and Blizzard with their sexual misconduct, harassment, and otherwise. Their CEO defending it. The allegations of toxic work environments, etc. It's just not a company I support, despite the fact that I was a huge fan of their games. There's a lot more information out there, but I don't feel like going through it all. I'll remove my post if you want.

Maybe I'm just being salty? I don't think so though.

Edit: Sorry Chris, if I am out of line or didn't provide enough info in my original post.

[–] admin@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hear you and understand where you are coming from. If I were to dig down into every single product, that I use in my day-to-day existence, then I'd probably find dirt everywhere. I'm not sure what I'd do at that point. Throw the baby out with the bathwater? It's a tough position to be in.

[–] MooMix@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No doubt. I agree. I try to stay out of things for that reason, but this was big news for a couple years and is still going on. As a gamer, it was unavoidable. The number of reports coming out of that company is concerning. But I do try to separate art from the artist when I can.