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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Why does Netanyahu want Trump to be president so badly if Harris has the same position towards Israel as he does?

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Why take your voting advice from rumors of a fascist genocider?

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"Hey you know how there is an unbelievably close race between a centrist who wants to maintain the status quo but may occssionally bend to public pressure and an outright madman who want burn democracy to the ground while lining his own pockets and rolling back social progress to the 1850s? You should totally protest vote for a party that doesn't have its shit together enough to even get on the ballot everywhere and has no chance at all of winning. That will show them how you really feel!"

I cannot imagine why main stream American politics doesn't take leftists seriously.

Grow up.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

See, Leftists don't believe Harris is a "centrist" but a genocidal Imperialist, similar to Trump. Harris hasn't yet bent to public pressure either.

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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You should be against genocide and not vote for any genocide candidate.

We can all see that in your condescending and largely unrealistic boilerplate lesser evil lecture, you conveniently ignored the elephant in the room.

Now, we could talk about how your electoralism logic is flawed, but as you all claim morality, I don't think I should need to. You should be against genocide and act accordingly.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If you think voting in a way that helps Trump win is a vote against genocide, I have some bad news for you.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

If you vote for a genocider, you vote for genocide. You shouldn't do that. It's wrong to support and normalize genocide.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I would love to vote for no genocide, but once again, even more genocide is not only on the ballot, but has taken the lead in the last few days. Meanwhile the no genocide candidate on offer here couldn't manage to get on the ballot in enough places to to win and couldn't be arsed to follow the rules in the places they did bother. So forgive me if I choose to live in reality and do the only thing I can that might actually stop the even more genocide guy.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would love to vote for no genocide

Then don't vote for a genocide candidate. Easy. Done.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lots of things are easy when you refuse to acknowledge the consequences of your actions. Enjoy the sand in your ears.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (83 children)

You said you'd love to do something as if it's difficult when it is actually trivially easy.

You should be against genocide and not vote for genocide candidates. You seem to disagree. So, tell me. Tell me, "I will vote for a genocide candidate and normalize genocide". Acknowledge your compliciy before making your excuses.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Liberals love Leftists until Leftists extend their criticism to Liberals.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Liberals become reactionary monsters when someone has consistent left politics and doesn't do whatever daddy genocide tells them.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yep. Liberals use Leftists as a messaging aesthetic to toss aside when it comes time to get their hands dirty.

[–] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

See, this is the kind of thing you bring up during primaries not when the field has narrowed down such that the only other viable contender is worse.

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

You're not going to be able to kick the Leftists off of Lemmy.ml.

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