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anakin-padme-1 We have to ensure that people are meeting their potential.

anakin-padme-2 And exceeding it?

anakin-padme-3 No one exceeds his potential.

anakin-padme-4 lf he did?

anakin-padme-3 lt simply means that we didn't accurately gauge his potential in the first place

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[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The embryo is not even capable of reading or visual understanding or auditory understanding: 0 IQ points, better terminate pregnancy

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Was gonna say this makes zero sense. IQ tests are extremely dubious at best even when personalized to the individuals cultural norms and mostly revolve around learned cultural behaviors and pattern recognitions that stem from those cultural behaviors. An embryo has not yet learned anything how could it have an IQ.

IQ tests were an absolute mistake to the point that even the dude who invented them tried to get people to stop using them.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol if the fascist eugenicists who are making this didn't think IQ was a function of how much aryan blood you have in your veins they would have never made this garbage. Zero chance this isn't descended from epstein's grants for geneticists making eugenics apps. Did you hear about the eugenics dating app?

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

That's a thing? Of course that's a thing hillary-disgust

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

Using the tiniest of calipers to check skulls

[–] The_Riddler@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

hitler-detector BEEP BEEP BEEP

[–] a_party_german@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Among the firm’s senior staff is the academic Jonathan Anomaly, who has caused controversy after defending what he describes as “liberal eugenics”.

The guy defending eugenics goes by "Mr. Anomaly"? Why do these stories always feature silly details like that

[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

probably even more pathetic, it is either his working name or he legally changed it for additional notoriety hype

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

makes zero sense, they would need a dataset showing every detail of an embryo and correlating it to IQ later in life, no such thing exists, period

eugenicist designer babies make far more sense with our current technology, reasonably you could measure what their eye color or hair color would be and abort if you didnt like it (wtf lol imagine putting your body through all of this just to get a baby like this)

Managers boasted their methods could produce a gain of more than six IQ points.

bro what a normal person can experience iq swings on a particular day greater than this just by not sleeping well

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

When I was looking up the numbers for my joke I came across this delightfully relevant stat:

About 42% of children change their score by 5 or more points when re-tested.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

Eugenics as a Service.

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

good quote OP, Gattaca is now 27 years old but it is still worth watching

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I've ran into way too many techbro dipshits in the past that wanted to build the Torment Nexus from Gattaca. I'm not kidding. They thought the society was great as it was.

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll admit to thinking the society depicted was actually very cool when I first watched it and got in an argument with a friend about it. Media literacy is hard when you're young okay

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

I understand.

The people I argued with about it were in their thirties and were well educated so they don't get a pass.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The society in gattaca was very bad but from my hazy decade plus old memory of it the MC's specific circumstance was like the worst possible example of why. Wasn't he a guy with a congenital heart problem trying to get picked for a one-man mission to Jupiter?

[–] D61@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I too am hazy about a move I haven't watched in 10+years.

Did he have a heart problem or did his genes make it more statistically likely to have/develop a heart problem?

(The internet seems to think that its the gene stastics things and not actually having been diagnosed with a heart defect.)

[–] Blep@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

He had the heart problem

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Wasn't he a guy with a congenital heart problem trying to get picked for a one-man mission to Jupiter?

He sure was. He didn't fight the system; he just wanted to get his life achievement (while potentially endangering that mission after blast-off).

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

i-think-that it's actually pretty reasonable to screen astronauts for heart defects.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago
[–] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

galaxy-brain : "What if you could identify your baby's IQ and abort it if it's below Mensa levels?"

honk-enraged WHAT IF I COULD JUST AFFORD TO HAVE MY CHILD AND TAKE IT TO A DOCTOR????????

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

cure-for-fascism "Well, considering the amount of money you've given us to provide this 'service', it's safe to say you don't need to worry about your child having an excessive IQ... In particular, I'd say there is about 66% chance of it being between 85 and 115."

Sorry kid, your parents didn't pass the IQ test.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I wish all eugenicists a safe trip to the deepest circle of hell

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Westerners literally can't help but be real life Viltrumites.

Every ten seconds they need to "purge the weak" or whatever.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

Wow... caliper technology really has progressed quite a ways hasn't it?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

IQ is just a measurement of how well integrated an individual is to western hegemony.

It's seen as a D&D style stat by calipers enjoyers because of course it is. big-yud

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

IQ is such a messy bunch of environment-vs-heredity factors for an arbitrary number that measures successful integration into western hegemony that it's not likely there'd be any reliable or consistent ways to increase it in a falsifiable way in an embryo besides "make sure parents have high IQs," and even then, kind of dubious.

Now, if techbros wanted to breed more ruthlessly efficient sociopaths I'm sure enough Torment Nexus tinkering could screen away frontal lobe and mirror neuron functionality. cap-think

[–] Eco@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

honestly i almost respect the grift, because there's literally no way of getting reliable results and that's a lot of money to charge gullible race realists

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Torment Nexus moment.

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago