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[–] Steve@communick.news 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

They aren't organized by the Sate. They have no official authority. So they aren't really a Militia.
They are a literal gang.
Stop calling them Militia.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Militia isn't defined by being part of the State.

It's a term used to describe a military force comprised of civilians. There's even a modern connotation of being against the state.

a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities in opposition to a regular army.

Gangs aren't purely for military purposes, so if the purpose of this gang is an armed attack against a govenrment agency, then it's not unreasonable to call them a militia.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So a militia, comprised of terrorists.... seems fair.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

I don't understand. Do you find that confusing?

Boiled down, "militia" doesn't mean much more than "group of non-soldiers organised in a soldier sort of way with the intention of doing soldier sort of things".

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think the term is private vs state militias, and with this article being about armed militias, we are talking about armed private vs armed state militias. I think technically all 50 states have laws on the books that prohobit various forms of private armed militia activity. Is it enforceable? Maybe, but that would maybe probably cause a nation wide incident given the amount of violence these groups can wield (though they would probably still lose against any organized state militias or any official state/federal military force), as well as increase the chance of a homegrown insurgency popping up. That's just my armchair opinion or thought about it though, I'm just armchairing here.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Call them terrorists. That's what they are.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

paramilitars

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

So how about the cops do their fuckin jobs and go round up these people.

[–] Duckingold@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They did. The threat was established to be incorrect and the lone person making the threat was detained, and workers are back in the area.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2024/10/13/federal-officials-nc-temporarily-relocated-amid-report-armed-militia-email-shows/

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Detained on a misdemeanor and released. It's also not clear whether these are two separate reports.

[–] Duckingold@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

The Washington Post article goes over the threats and there is nothing substantiating the armed militia.

It would be a bit odd to me for the national guard to report to the US Forestry that they saw an armed militia and wouldn't be actively pursuing it. Seems more likely is was a miscommunication in a hectic environment.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe some of them ARE cops.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

They can’t be threatening FEMA and helping them!!!

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How are those fuckers not in jail?

[–] SelfProgrammed@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Another article said this is wrong. There was one 44 yr old from Bothic that's been arrested but no militia... Yet.

https://apnews.com/article/fema-threats-disaster-workers-rutherford-county-armed-militia-dbb6b5727eaa12e79f307bf38a4b6256

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just to clarify, as far as I can tell, the trucks were reported by the National Guard to the US Forest Service who notified FEMA. The other was a call to a sheriff's office about a single individual. It's quite possible these are two actual but different things.

[–] Balthazar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is why we can't have nice things.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

It really is. One of the reasons, anyway.