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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 9 hours ago

What the fuck was that in the last panel.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago

The atomic bomb. Very powerful.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 hours ago

Gun large enough to hit London. The barrel had to be so long that they built it into a hillside to keep it supported

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

This is missing a picture of an American shipyard and an ice cream barge. The Japanese really didn't have a hope of winning. We were adding multiple aircraft carriers per year to the fleet, and more each year than the last. So they'd sink one and it would be replaced by 3 more.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 12 hours ago

Needs 3000 of what, to operate?

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago

Just 3000 of whatever you have on hand, generally

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Of course the pic of the long-range fighter is a P-51, which always gets all the credit for that shit. But the P-47N was built to escort B-29s all the way from the Marshall Islands to Japan and back, and had a range in the neighborhood of 3000 miles - simply astonishing when you consider how short-legged fighters were at the beginning of the war (Battle of Britain Bf109s could barely make 400 miles).

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 62 points 20 hours ago

This is missing the manned surface-to-air missile, one of the most batshit concepts of WW2 imo:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachem_Ba_349_Natter

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

The pigeon-guided bombs were more batshit, although paradoxically probably a lot more practical.

[-] Gurei@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

Natter indeed.

[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 44 points 20 hours ago

"The primary role of the relatively untrained pilot was to aim the aircraft at its target bomber and fire its armament of rockets. The pilot and the fuselage containing the rocket engine would then land using separate parachutes, while the nose section was disposable."

I was picturing something more like a Kamikaze.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 17 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I gotchu:

That is the Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka, a Japanese kamikaze rocket plane

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 8 hours ago

The flower is very kawaii.

[-] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

~~rocket plane~~ human-guided missile

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 46 minutes ago

potato, missile-o

[-] Shipgirlboy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 19 hours ago

You're thinking of the Reichenberg-Gerät, although the Nazis were crazy they weren't crazy enough to actually use it.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

IDK the reason they didn't deploy that thing, but it certainly wasn't prudence or concern for pilot safety because the Me163 rocket plane was used.

[-] Shipgirlboy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago

The Me163 was supposed to be reusable, including the pilot, the Reichenberg was one time use only, including the pilot.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

The Me163 was supposed to be reusable, including the pilot

The pilot was reusable, if you count fertilizer as a re-use.

[-] GoodStuffEh@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago

Does anyone else remember BF1942: Secret Weapons? This shit was a riot to cruise around in

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Wow! I was just watching the anime, Saga of Tanya the Evil, and it had these in it. I assumed it was anime craziness.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

We did have the Mark 14 torpedo, in the "disaster" category.

Germany had her own torpedo problems, but the Mark 14 went out the door in abysmal form, and we were extremely slow to get the problems fixed. And we were fighting a war with more naval focus than was Germany.

And while we had some work on the VT fuze and would have eventually gotten there ourselves -- though time is valuable in a war -- that was really the Brits. They gave us their work and we finished the work to put it into a shell.

And some of our concepts, though we ultimately made use of them in some way, failed in their original form.

The idea that ships would be a sitting duck for high-altitude level bombers was just wrong. Down the road, yes, but not in WW2. Billy Mitchell really oversold the state of things. And while it wasn't catastrophic for us, it did hurt our initial ability to respond to naval forces.

The B-17 concept that massive interlocked fields of fire from defensive guns would permit bombers to sail past fighters didn't really work. It was in a stronger position than the Avro Lancaster for daylight bombing, but we took horrendous losses; ultimately long-range fighter escort was still required.

The Norden bombsight didn't really deliver the tremendous advantage that had been expected.

We initially drastically overestimated what our early radars could do for us in naval night-fighting, and it led to things like the Battle of Savo Island. The Brits seriously bailed us out here with the cavity magnetron.

Germany also had some significant wins. Yeah, they didn't have the semi-auto rifle as a standard issue, whereas we had the M1 Garand. But they did have the assault rifle, in the form of the StG 44. They had the general-purpose machine gun in the form of the MG 34.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

The MG 34 wasn't as big a win as people think it is. It was a better belt fed weapon than the 1919 30 cal. But that's because we were focusing on offensive support weapons while they were focusing on defensive ones. Thus we made the BAR and deployed it to as many squads as we could. They made the MG 34 and 42, which were better defensive weapons.

They did have a big issue though, they used too much ammunition. Modern GPMGs fire at half or even a third the ROF. (The MG 42 could do 1500 rounds a minute!) This not only had a bad effect on supply but also severely shortened their barrel life in combat.

Over all it seems hard to pick out the difference between a GPMG and a SAW these days but that BAR/MG 34 difference is where it's rooted.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

They gave us their work and we finished the work to put it into a shell.

And we got the price down from $750 per unit to $18, about what the shells themselves cost. And we got microwave ovens out of the deal!

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 3 points 11 hours ago

To be fair I believe the Wehrmacht really wanted to move to issuing more small arms like the G43 and the STG/MP44 but Hitler was shortsighted and spiked the STG44 project personally.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 40 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Nonshitpost comment: A video I like to recommend on tank production illustrates the differences in mindset for industrial production.

Summary is that the US had mastered assembly line production and the use of subassembly parts to minimize production time. The US military had a centralized body to evaluate and approve different variants, which meant production stayed smooth.

The Soviets lacked experience with this kind of mass production by they quickly caught on and adapted in a logical way. They used assembly line production, but didn't use subassemblies from different factories, as that would clog up their rail lines and spread out the factories needed to be defended. Instead they centralized so that trains brought raw materials to factories and left with finished tanks.

The Germans built tanks with a team of people who would continually work on one tank, crafting it. This was much slower. There was also too much of a direct line between many different military commanders and the tank production, allowing commanders to constantly put in their own personal special requests, further slowing down production as so many tanks had to have special modifications (that weren't important to the big picture).

[-] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

I've seen (what I think is) a different video that made a similar point. I wish I could remember it well enough to find it again.

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago

I will not hear sass directed at my best boy Schwerer Gustav

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Which was nothing compared to the Paris Gun from WWI anyway.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago

PING!

Also, let's not forget "Tank that doesn't murder the crew when it's mission-killed" and "Jeep"

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Also long lance VS buords shit-baby.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

The "Long Lance" was Japanese, though. And FWIW it was never called that during the war by either side. "Long Lance" was a postwar invention by an author, and a frankly dumb one - all lances are long, that's kind of their thing.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 14 points 19 hours ago

Is “engine life of five hours” correct? Would the engine need replacement after five hours of flight time? Damn, that sucks.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

One of the under-appreciated benefits of the Allies' successful invasion of North Africa was that it cut Germany off from their main sources of stuff like chromium, cobalt and nickel, elements that are alloyed with steel to produce material that can resist the kind of high temperatures that jet engines produce. This forced them to manufacture turbine blades from ordinary steel, which doesn't work very well.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 2 points 9 hours ago

Interesting. Thank you!

[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

It was more like 10-35, but it appears to be a reference to the Junkers Jumo 004.

[-] lowered_lifted@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

people will be like "but project paperclip!" and it's like nah, that was basically just a way to pay them off so they didn't work for the Soviets, we didn't actually need the tech. Von Braun was a fucking office manager.

[-] superduperpirate@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago

Anyone have a guess as to what the bottom left picture might be? Just looks like some weird stairs.

[-] Shipgirlboy@sh.itjust.works 26 points 19 hours ago

That's the Kanone V-3, a super long range artillery gun intended to shoot at London.

[-] cameron_@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago
[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Leave it to the Germans to name their weapon after what was used to kill the diety, EVERYONE liked. (Balder)

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

The Germans were notorious for using on-the-nose naming conventions. For example a radio-homing system was called "Odin", which the British correctly guessed was using one transmitter rather than the usual two because Odin only had one eye.

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

The lesson here is that when picking code names, pick random words from the dictionary.

[-] 33550336@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

Great point, especially towards fans of nazi overfucked tech

[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 20 hours ago

I wouldn't mind a fighter with the range of a bomber. I end up never using fighters unless I'm being invaded because of its short range, but the initial biplanes can only be remodeled into fighters so I'll end up having a couple of them every time. I still need to give the P-51 mustang a try, they seem to have a slightly better range.

[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 6 points 21 hours ago

Tank destroyers with rotating turrets.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

There were really two different groups of tank destroyers in WW2.

The US and UK wanted something that would prevent a situation akin to what came up in the Battle of France, where fast-moving German armor penetrated French lines at Sedan and performed a successful massive exploitation through that breach.

They had fast vehicles that were intended to fight from concealed, defensive positions. But those vehicles had to be able to get out in front of an armored breakthrough in time to parry the thrust. What was critical was speed.

Germany and the Soviet Union, out on the Eastern Front, needed heavily-armored vehicles with big guns to slug it out over open fields with long fields of fire.

While, yes, both were aimed at fighting armor, they weren't really aimed at the same role, and I kind of wish that the two groups of vehicles had gotten different names, rather than "tank destroyer" being applied to both.

[-] Lupus@feddit.org 7 points 21 hours ago

But also topless, because what are mortars and hand grenades?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

Cue !MilitaryMoe NSFW in 3...2...1...

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