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I could use some advice or support.

My husband and I both have ADHD. We really struggle to keep up with cleaning our home. My parents weren't great cleaners when I was a kid either, so I get stressed sometimes because I don't know how to handle various things around our home.

My husband told me a couple weeks ago that his mom was over at our house, and she told him we "don't deserve to be homeowners." This comment really cut me to the core. I have a pretty good relationship with my MIL overall which is what makes it hurt that much worse. But she is an insanely clean person, and she really can't stand any kind of mess. I try to remind myself of this, that her standards are really high. I keep hearing that comment in my head and I feel like a piece of shit.

I really want to clean up my house but I have so much shame around it that it's so hard to motivate myself to do it. It's not like I live in a hoarder house or anything... But my house is messy enough that I am embarrassed to have people over most or the time.

Just needed to vent a little. Thanks for reading.

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[–] Frenchy@aussie.zone 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve not got a lot of advice to offer, because what you’re going through is hard and sometimes there’s no easy answer.

I will however tell you from one stranger to another that the shame is misplaced. You have nothing to be ashamed about, because you’re doing the best you can. Sure, some hypothetical you has a shiny clean house and looks like they have all of their shit together but that’s not a real person, and that standard is not useful to hold yourself against. Your mil may very well have a spotless house but you can bet your arse she has other shortcomings where you are absolutely killing it.

Shame like this is almost always a learned reaction from some past events, and almost always it’s utterly unhelpful. You’re getting stuck in a shame spiral treating yourself like shit and then feeling so terrible that you’re in no position to dig yourself out. Try not to hold yourself to impossible standards. Treat yourself like a good friend - do what you can, and then give yourself a break. And try and recognise the areas where you’re doing pretty great, even though the house is a mess. Internet hugs.

[–] weeoooweeooo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Thanks for responding. That's an interesting way to frame it that I never thought of before - that cleaning is sort of a... talent, for lack of a better word. I guess I feel like there's this expectation for everyone, especially women, to be super clean. But I've never been that person. I think I can do a little better but yeah I'm never gonna have knack for it per se.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I take it you work full-time, and your MIL doesn't?

If that's the case, then that explains perfectly why she has time to clean up and you don't.

[–] blueskiesoc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From my experience:

Gently let your husband know that if his mom says something negative that he should not pass it along to you. What his mom said did not hurt you until he told you. That's how I taught my kid not to spread gossip.

As for your mother in law, if she comments that something is messy, hand her a broom. That's how I got my certified-clean-freak mom to stop making comments. "Vacuum's in the closet" was another one, but she was my mom, not my MIL, so it wasn't as hard for me. Sooo...have your husband do it. :)

[–] Prewash_Required@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know this is not possible for many and also not a long term solution, but are you able to pay someone to do some light cleaning regularly for you? Not talking about deep cleaning but maybe like dusting and vacuuming and mopping? Having that structure might help - you know the cleaners will be there at 11 am every second Wednesday, so the task becomes doing some tidying before they come instead of this insurmountable shame mountain of cleaning your house top to bottom. As for your callous (in this instance) MIL, you can rest assured that she doesn't know what you're going through. It's up to you as to whether you believe she would have made that comment if she did know, and that should be the guidepost on how you go forward with her.

[–] weeoooweeooo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

We're on kind of a tight budget right now, but it's something I've considered.

I definitely feel like most baby boomers do not see neurodivergence or mental health challenges as legitimate. They don't get how ADHD or depression or anxiety could cause someone to struggle so much with everyday tasks.

[–] LegionEris@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only person who has ever made snide remarks about my home is my cunty MIL. My friends know and respect me and expect my home to have some chaos because I do. I have people coming over tomorrow, and I promise there will be some mess or chaos they don't care about. My apartment is vigorously lived in, and it shows. People can respect that or not come over. Tbh, I suspect that maintaining that boundary is part of why my MIL hasn't come to see our place in the two years we've been here. That and our place is larger, nicer, and in a better neighborhood than her tidy little trailer, so she really has nothing to lord over us. Hopefully yours isn't as bad as mine, but yeah, I wouldn't respect her opinion. And don't get me started on the classism and ablism of someone not deserving to own a home they earned because you're gonna use it in an idiosyncratic way that suits you more than her. That's a gross thing to say.

[–] weeoooweeooo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this one's tough to address because I wasn't there when she said it. I heard it second hand from my husband. If I had been there, I definitely would have said something to her. For the most part she's great, but my husband's family culture is kinda like... They say things bluntly sometimes. My family was NOT like that growing up. I think there's a happy medium to be found somewhere in there...

Sorry about your MIL. It's great that you've set boundaries though.

[–] Lhianna@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

You might want to take a look at "How to keep house while drowning". I've heard a lot of good things about it.