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People should stop mentioning Firefox Google deal when they defend Firefox against their advertising investments. (programming.dev)
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If Google stopped supporting Firefox today, Bing would still pay to be the default engine. If bing does not pay, Yandex would do.

My point here is Firefox still has 2.71% market share, a lot of search engines operators would pay Firefox good money to be their default engine.

The default search revenue stream is guaranteed as long as they have good amount of users.

But they actively choose to ruin it.

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[-] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

This article is very revealing: Firefox: Illusion of choice

The only good thing that comes out of Firefox are forks like LibreWolf and Mull.

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 12 points 14 hours ago

If Google pulled out, Bing would lowball Mozilla. Yandex are untouchable given that they're Russian and so there's not much left.

But that's all besides the point, removing one dependency to replace it with another doesn't make sense, people have been clamouring for Mozilla to become self sustainable and they're attempting to do that. The fact that people want some crazy utopia where Mozilla just replace Google's money with donations is the problem. Though, I personally think that we as users, should be lobbying our governments and advocating for more investment in open source alternatives such as Mozilla.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Then why don't these search engines pay for being default?

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 5 points 13 hours ago

There was a point where Yahoo paid to be the default in America, Google came back at the next opportunity and doubled (IIRC) their offer.

[-] 911@programming.dev 0 points 13 hours ago

Because Google is already paying.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

If anyone else offered to pay what Google pays Mozilla would drop Google like an hot potato (like they did Yahoo).

So I wouldn't count on any mythical alternative unless Microsoft decides to waste more money promoting Bing (which wouldn't really be an upgrade privacy wise).

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