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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I feel like it's much more often someone being called left when they're really a liberal, fash, red fash, etc.

[-] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 30 points 10 hours ago

It's so funny to see Alex Jones present himself as above left-right politics despite constantly spewing far right BS.

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 43 points 11 hours ago

Everytime I have a discussion with someone who says “both sides are the same”, they always end up voting right. I ask if both sides are the same why not vote left?

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[-] Allero@lemmy.today 30 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Let's just start with the fact that American political system is super skewed to begin with and no actual left has any power.

Dems are highly pro-capitalist, moderately nationalist and merely call to strike a bit less horrible balance between the interests of people and businesses. This is not left, this is a bit better right.

This fallacy keeps people trapped in an idea that the only possible options are "good" ultra-capitalism and "greedy" ultra-capitalism, which is not true.

People that try to have "both sides heard" totally ignore that there are way more than two angles in this conversation and that Dems are not some sort of a political extreme. Reps, ironically, kinda are.

And Democrats often think they vote for something actually good, when it's actually just a lesser evil. Keep that in mind, no matter what you decide.

[-] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 33 points 12 hours ago

I've had a guy tell me he votes for Trump because he's trying to take a balanced centrist view of things. But dude, if Trump is the center, wtf are your extremes?

[-] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 hours ago

Homie just heard a bunch of words online and attempted to string them together into a coherent political opinion. They failed, but hey they tried.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 38 points 13 hours ago

It's weird how often people say they "Aren't for Right or the Left" and "Think BOTH parties are the problem", but only ever have negative things to say about the Left.

Concern Trolls are not your friends

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

It betrays a deep level of self-awareness of being on the "bad" side and knowing that if you say your actual values around a large number of normal people you will face criticism and attacks, so it's shame. Centerism is almost always some level of shame, or at best woefully immature ignorance of actual politics.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It's weird how people think usa has a left-wing party.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

well the richest guy on the planet and the republican party candidate both are trying to portray kamala harris as a communist when she's possibly slightly to the right of nixon.

I do think the media needs to be broken up, the lack of competition for big media (including social media) has resulted in some level of complacency with unhinged conspiracies.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago

It's weird how you made it your personal mission is to correct "other people's wrong opinions".

Get over yourself 💁

[-] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Damn this hits. I've worked with a lot of guys who "don't vote, don't pay attention" that are defacto conservative in their beliefs.

[-] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago

Most men in general are by default conservative because society was kinda built around prioritizing men's feelings/sensibilities. Of course equality for all feels like being oppressed if your normal is privilege.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I have yet to meet a right wing surfer, admittedly I haven't been surfing for long, so I'm sure it will happen.

[-] Shapillon@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Because if you don't pay attention you simply are ok with the status quo which is inherently conservative.

[-] paladin3494@feddit.dk 3 points 9 hours ago

Most of the time this exact meme is reposted by a red fascist zealot though

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 37 points 15 hours ago

Anyone claiming to be undecided on Trump and the GOP in 2024 is full of shit.

[-] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 14 hours ago

I'm undecided on Trump and the GOP in 2024, I can't tell if they're brutally evil or evilly brutal.

[-] kinsnik@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

same, but i am go between "he can't be that stupid, he must know he is lying" and "oh, he is that stupid, he might believe the nonsense he says"

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

I'm a centrist. I say they're brutally evil AND evilly brutal, and I would even add the hot-take as an ENLIGHTENED centrist that they're probably also stupid.

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[-] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 16 hours ago

The post brought to you by Emmanuel Macron

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