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Someone asked a question about how frequently young people have time to socialize and it made me think about what people do with their evenings. I recently asked my son to go to a concert (free ticket to see a band i know he likes) and he declined because it was an hour away on a weeknight. If we invite our kids or niece/nephew to dinner they always want to go at 6/630 which feels so early. Edit: Kids are 30ish.

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[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 116 points 1 year ago

Early 30s. Outside is a scam. Everything there involves spending money and dealing with people. I'll talk and play games with my friends online but don't see people unless I am at work or forced to go out.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 93 points 1 year ago

Everything there involves spending money

Almost all the good socialization has become commercialized. There's no town square anymore, it's turned into a Walmart.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

And not even a 24 hour Walmart.

[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I think that's a big point, hardly anything is open late anymore. Seems like the world stops at 10PM these days and everything has to shut down then.

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[-] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

not even a walmart. where i live it's a neiman marcus. if you don't have $2000 to drop on a single coat, GTFO.

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[-] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't go out because post covid everything costs 100% more and is 100% worse.

I spend $60 on two beers and a mcdonalds quality hamburger + fries last week. F that. in 2019 that would have been 20 bucks. in a place that was crowded and it took me like 30m to get my food. and almost every place is like that now. double the price for half the service or quality of product.

if going out was fun and affordable I'd do it more. I went out regularly before covid. I just don't want to have to drop 30-40 bucks for a single beer and junk food meal anytime i want to socialize.

all my old spots that were affordable, chill and fun, are gone. i used to hang out in coffee shops after work because they were quiet and i don't drink.. now they all closed at 2pm. bars are noisy and crowded and want $15+ for a cocktail and $10 for a budweiser. that used to be $10 and $5.

[-] lazyslacker@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Dude even stuff like bowling is too much now. An hour for two people can approach $70 at certain places. Not the bougie places either, those places are even more. I was browsing Google reviews for one place nearby like that and the owner responded saying that they should look for a Groupon.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Around here, all the affordable bowling places shut down. All we have left are the boogie places.

My mom sent me $60 to take my kids, and it was not even close

[-] Today@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I get that. On top of increased cost we got into this overtipping to help people who were working and it's all gotten out of hand.

[-] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yeah i'm not even counting tipping. that shit is insane. lots of places in my city now want a 20% tip, and a 5-10% fee. on top of a 9% tax. So basically your meal is now 35-40% more than the prices in the menu. and it's expect at literally every joint now, take out and coffee joints too.

it's just not worth it. for that kind of pricing I'm better off just getting delivery. which is what i do now. ubereats is a 20% tip and like a $5 delivery fee. it's cheaper and i don't have to deal with slow/rude service and other customers being loud and obnoxious.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

We did not get into over tipping to help people who are working. Tipping popped up everywhere because it's profitable for POS terminal operators and business owners. It wasn't something society decided on, most people complain about it. It was brought about suddenly when the POS terminals changed, mainly from Square Cash, but everyone else followed suit.

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[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 64 points 1 year ago

If we invite our kids or niece/nephew to dinner they always want to go at 6/630 which feels so early.

I hate to break this to you... but it's likely because they want to do their own things as well.

[-] Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago

For dinner 6.30 seems very late to me imo

[-] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago

I typically eat around 730 8 630 sounds early to me.

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[-] qwamqwamqwam@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At least for me, its a threshold problem. The internet means that staying at home is always going to be at least somewhat interesting, which makes it a lot harder to take a gamble on a random late night outing. It’s not just staying out late, either—Gen Z shows declines in a whole host of risky behaviors. Smoking, alcohol, drug use, teen pregnancy, are all way down in our generation. In some sense, we’ve found a drug that we prefer to actual drugs.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

I have two 15 years old sons. One of them is never home. He is always going out with his friends, either to the gym, or just walking around town. The other one rarely leaves the house. He'll invite his friends over to hang out, and sometimes he visits them, but they usually talk at school or online.

One difference I noticed is that back in the 1900s, we had to get a ride from our parents in order to play video games with our friends, but thanks to the Internet, it's very easy to play and socialize with your friends from home, and being in the same room now PREVENTS people from playing together.

The kids are actually socializing MORE because they don't need to meet at the same location, and I don't have to drive their asses all over town, so I'm ok with that.

[-] Today@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago

1900's... 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the age gut punch.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

One of my kids said it a few months ago, and I decided that MUST be how I refer to it from then on! 😂

[-] Philolurker@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I like to say "before the turn of the century", but someone always gives me shit for it.

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[-] chutapues@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Cost of living and going out is insane. We don’t have the expendable income to do so.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

I'm in my 40s, I'm not gonna go out to a concert an hour away on a weeknight because that means I'm not getting home 'til after 1 and I have to be up in the morning with a functioning brain because I have a damn job.

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[-] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know about your location specifically or the specific age range you're refering to, but at least where I am, school/college tends to start at like 8:00 am, and most students want to or need to work fairly busy jobs given the ongoing cost of living crisis. Considering that, it means they can't stay up late, and don't have much energy to socialize compared to older generations. Although again, this varys by area and individual.

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[-] UnhappyCamper@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

I'm in my 30s and with constant stress of life, I have no interest in really doing much of anything besides sitting on my couch playing video games and forgeting everything in my down time.

I used to go out and party every weekend and during the week, but that was my early 20s.

[-] Album@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

Your kids aren't kids and probably understand the value of a good night's sleep in order to work the next day?

I generally don't go out on week nights especially not late because I want to get at least 7-8 hours of sleep or I'm a grumpy unproductive mess. My evenings I'm making dinner, getting ready for the next day, and trying to find an hour or two to relax before doing it all over again

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[-] Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago

I am a young person and I only leave the house to go to work, but I am currently looking for a wfh job. There's nothing really interesting outside and the weather is rarely nice. If there were less roads and stores and more parks or places you could just exist in then I probably would go outside more, but that would be during the day and not at night. Usually during the evening I just lay around and relax. I am so tired and stressed from the day that I never feel like doing anything when I get home.

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Covid isn't a factor for me anymore, I keep up with my shots. It's financial reasons and time restraints mostly. I got too much shit to do to have any sort of fun. My off days is catching up on sleep debt and errands. Speaking of which I need to do right now.

[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I just don't feel like it anymore, I'm a different person than I was in my 20s. COVID has nothing to do with it.

[-] BassaForte@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm 29. Wife and I go out for food 4 times a week. Also to do things to get out of the house. But, I make software engineer money and we live in a relatively small city in Wisconsin. I bought my house at 27 and own a sports car.

I know shit is rough for a lot of people and inflation is nuts. I don't take my career for granted.

EDIT: Oh yeah, probably a good thing to note: no kids, we're both sterilized. Not our thing.

[-] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

yes. nightlight in my city is predominantly wealthy people going out every other night. i go out like a few times a month and people think i'm a weirdo/shut in. i used to go out more, but it was way cheaper to go out back then.

i can't be dropping $500 in drinks alone every week. but for a lot of people in my city that's entirely normal.

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[-] WtfEvenIsExistence@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hard to go outside when you have depression from the shit that the world throws at you. People always tell stories about wars, plagues, and, various disasters. But it's all just stories. Most people don't experience them, and for those who do, it's only happening in a small part of the world. War refugees can go to another country, you can move out of the country to avoid a local plague, and you move out of the way of a hurricane.

Sars-Cov-2 (Covid-19) is worldwide, and it's a horror story becoming real. It's not like there's anywhere in the world that's safe to hide. I think many people just have a sort of existential crisis. The world world having an existential crisis at the same time, over a period of a few months to years. The world is so interconnected, every news is about it. I mean, this feels so apocalyptic, like a worldwide apocalypse.

Humans have never, on a global scale, all experience a disaster, at the same time. And being able to tell each other across the world how much people are suffering.

Also, people are (at least where I live) getting violent due to the economic instability caused by Covid.

All this on top of worldwide Autocrazation in every country, and the seemingly inevitable climate disasters awaiting in the near future....

I don't think humans are evolved enough to process this.

Also, people might have long-covid which further damages the brain.

People these days are just too depressed.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 1 year ago

I'm 30ish. There is no time. Gotta go.

[-] malloc@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I recently asked my son to go to a concert (free ticket to see a band i know he likes) and he declined because it was an hour away on a weeknight

Either your son is more responsible than you or he already had plans to sneak out with his friends or gf 😂

Also are your kids and nieces/nephews more like young adults, teenagers or middle schoolers?

[-] Today@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

My kids are 30ish. If he's sneaking out, his punishment comes from his wife, which i suspect is more effective than any grounding he got from us. 😁 Niece's and nephews are late 30s-mid 40s. The older ones seem more likely to go out later and stay someplace longer drinking and chatting than the younger ones.

[-] malloc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Oh, they are full grown adults. During the week, they are grinding at work. Sometimes they just want to come home and reset with their own family (wife, kids, games, catch up on shows, whatever). Not sure what their commute or work is like, but I can definitely see dipping out on random family events early or just not going out completely. Especially during working days.

I think you just need to plan it better. Maybe schedule family dinner and events on the weekends.

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[-] Mdotaut801@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

In my early 30s, I don’t have time and I’d rather spend money on stuff for my house or trips (when I finally do have time). I don’t drink or party, AND I’d rather have a good night’s sleep and feel good the next day than stay out past my bed time. I’m asleep between 9-1030 most nights including weekends.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I blame video games! No, seriously. During COViD, my kids leaned on video games as their only social outlet - everything is online and they’re generally chatting the whole time. We stopped limiting their gaming time because that was their socializing time.

Since COViD and work from home, I don’t go out anywhere nearly as much. It’s too much hassle

My ex moved to a new town and my younger kid (high school) is very active so spent the summer exploring the town. He’d spend entire days walking around, and never found “where the high school kids hang out”, I don’t think they do (outside the house)

My older kid spend all his money on the “occasional” Dunks. Even coffee drinks have gotten so much more expensive

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[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

My kids, the teenagers, definitely do not go out like I did - it's not money, most of what we did back then was just drink in empty parking lots, go to garage punk shows, concerts when we could. Sometimes the beach at night too. We had no money. They do similar (much less drinking, more of a police state now) but way, way less often and not usually till late.

The older set, 25-31, it varies. Some eat at civilized 8-9pm when they do go out. Some like to go at teatime then just go home.

The husband and I, we do usually go out to eat at teatime but sometimes go out for a drink, literally one, or to a concert or show.

Every single one of us, adults and teens, like outdoor concerts because they have to end by 11, noise ordinance. Or concerts at clubs that wrap them early to open afterwards as a dance club. Nobody likes staying up till 3am at a show anymore, but maybe nobody actually liked it in the first place?

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[-] rasterweb@artemis.camp 6 points 1 year ago

My daughter is in her 20s and will go out to the climbing gym at 8pm or later some nights.

[-] beefcat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This year I've been going out more than ever. COVID gave me a new appreciation for out-of-the-house activities and now I can't get enough of them.

Ironically, I met my current IRL social circle on discord during the pandemic. Most people in my old social circle started having kids over the last few years so I don't really spend as much time with them anymore.

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