I’ve been to Springfield several times. I’ve even had hookups there. Listen it sucks, but it sucks because it’s a small city in Ohio not because of the Haitians.
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Anyone know if there are any good Haitian restaurants in Springfield? I'm less than an hour away and I love to eat
Seems like you aren't the only person asking that
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/22/springfield-ohio-haitian-restaurants
The place mentioned in that article, Rose Goute Creole Restaurant, looks great: https://g.co/kgs/XFykf9j
I'm nowhere near ohio, but I've made a note to try that place if I'm ever within driving distance
Grab some lunch at Rose Goute. Then, do a tour of Frank Lloyd Wright's Westcott House. It's a really neat bit of architectural history. Once you're done, head down to Yellow Springs, take a walk on the trail at John Bryant, and finish off the day with dinner at Sunrise Cafe
I stopped there on a cross country drive like 20 years ago and it sucked but not because of any weird immigration claims…just because there was nothing really going on. I imagine it’s still pretty boring today but maybe some immigration can put some life into the town.
If the immigration doesn’t work, at least the bomb threats are adding some excitement for the townsfolk.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/20/opinion/springfield-haitian-migrants-ohio.html
The GOP Governor of Ohio wrote an NY Times op-ed talking about what a nice place Springfield is and how terrible it is that domestic terrorists have threatened the population.
He's also going to vote for Trump
Conservatives operate completely on fear. His eyes can see and understand the lies about his town. But to question all the other lies would be to question faith.
The cognitive dissonance with conservatives is incredibly strong. It would be fascinating if it weren't so harmful.
What amazes me is that he wrote the article in the first place. If I was in his shoes I'd have punted the essay to the town's mayor. The hard core MAGoos will condemn him for writing for the Times and the rest of the world will jeer him forever.
Sounds like something from Warhammer 40k.
The emperor protects.
My faith is resolute.
He says he's going to vote for Trump. I have a suspicion that quite a number of politicians who gobble his mushroom publicly in order to court the loony vote will privately vote for Harris.
Profiles in courage they are not.
He'll privately vote for Harris and then demand an investigation when she wins his state's electors.
There’s an NYT podcast picking apart the origins of the pet comment and what the immigrant population details actually are. Summary.
Springfield: population 60,000 dying town, no jobs. Suddenly manufacturing moves in, and now there’s not enough workers.
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In the last 3-4 yrs, very large influx of Haitian immigrants: 12,000 to 20,000. Immigrants tend to go where the community is in a new country, so the density in one place makes sense.
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On the one hand the new jobs that moved in now under threat of moving out due to lack of workers have stayed. On the other hand, it’s too much population to support all at once. 4 guys in an apartment can pay more rent than 1 family and other more traditional setups so rent goes up for locals, and housing availability goes down.
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Healthcare is overwhelmed. I can say that her comment on the translation need, at these numbers, overwhelming healthcare business hours and emergency room wait times is plausibly 100% correct. Use of translators which are almost never in person but by 3 way phone (corded phone with two receivers), speaker capable corded phone at times, or video, depending, do make each case requiring one take 2-3x as long. Everything gets said twice and there are pauses between everything said. Equipment availability is also never every room level. Usually there’s only 1-2 tablets for video interpreters too. And the interpreter services don’t always have interpreters available for your language at various times throughout the day. It can be a bottleneck with just a few cases. Some patients are savvy enough to bring their smart phones in with a translation app, that can work in a pinch, but most medical institutions require a trained medical interpreter for medical conversations. Family interpretation can be unreliable for medicine. So at some point that phone needs to go away and an actual, trained medical interpreter needs to be present. For every case. Clinic appointments get run over, and those already take a long time to get into.
Translation aside, adding this many people in a small town/city would do it as well, even with common language.
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Small Midwest town is suddenly 1/4 Haitian, with spike on housing prices and loss of available housing, and healthcare is overwhelmed. Enter tragic headline. A mini van hits a school bus and a child dies. Yes, that mini van was driven by a Haitian immigrant. The reporter says this is the boil over point.
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Now, among other things, some resident seeds the pets thing on a local Facebook group.
I lived there for almost a decade, about a decade and a half ago. It was so run down and dying then. People wouldn't come see us there that we had known all our lives because it was so dangerous. Pizza places wouldn't deliver down our street, we would have to walk to the main corner to get delivery. We paid a crack head to watch our house while we were away for a weekend.
I was in disbelief back when I heard about the factories deciding to build there after we had up and left... finally, after barely scraping enough together from living and working there. I wondered how they would fare but didn't follow up on it then.
I researched and verified everything you said above, and informed some other family on Fb, that was trying to stir the shit. They would hear none of it.
He continued, “Does anybody really think? I challenge ya. Go to Springfield, Ohio, which has been overwhelmed by 20,000 Haitian immigrants. Go to any community that’s been overwhelmed by Kamala Harris’ illegal alien policies and tell me that these are stories made up by politicians.”
JD Vance: “I made it up and will absolitely create false stories to win.”
JD Vance: “Prove to me I’m lying, though.”
Bro’s literally telling everyone he’s a liar and then challenging them to prove he’s a liar like DUDE YOU ADMITTED IT.
JD Vance: “Prove to me I’m lying, though.”
This is how conspiracy theorists work, they put the work on you to disprove them.
Yeah, the reply should be.. you made a claim without any evidence to back it up, so we will dismiss it just like that.
He does a tu quoque, shifts the burden of proof and makes himself the authority "because his constituents told him".. it's a nice trifecta and the media just let's him.
TPS was created under bush, and even though Trump made a lot of noise about ending tps for Haitians, he never did. So these Haitians where in the country already, and he did not deport them then, so now it's Bidens fault.. am I understanding that correctly?