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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shapiro has never outwitted anyone ever. Well maybe except for himself. I'll never understand people's fascination with him. Or desire to associate with him or what he calls thought.

[–] Unhappily_Coerced@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't get on a plane with Ben Shapiro because he'll destroy the left wing

Hilarious.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah. Nothing about Shapiro is humorous. Just sad.

[–] Unhappily_Coerced@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't let your lack of values coerce you into thinking that your lack of values is justified.

Blame the culture, not the skin color. Only then will you truly understand.

Look beyond superficial attributes and instead delve into the underlying cultural dynamics that contribute to individual's behavior.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean they lack values. When it comes to fascists in America it's honestly often quite the opposite. They disagree based on intense values shared with many other races classes etc.

And the fact that American Conservatives so often claim to be color blind etc. All while perpetuating systems with disparately racial outcomes. Only proves their dishonesty.

There are no cultural dynamics that contribute to Shapiro's behavior. And don't get me wrong I'm not saying that he has no values. They just don't extend much beyond self interest and personal wealth and power. He has no concern for anyone else. And his seeming lack of concern for programs with racial disparities outside of the ones that might impact him personally or be abused to him personally proves it.

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shapiro relies almost solely on the Gish Gallop debate technique:

The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments.

Having too many shitty arguments for any one person to refute is not how I'd describe "outwitting" someone.

[–] Unhappily_Coerced@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shapiro is known for his fast-paced and articulate speaking style. He possesses a strong command of language, which enables him to present his arguments clearly and succinctly.

Shapiro is well-versed in a wide range of topics, including politics, economics, philosophy, and social issues. He often extensively prepares for debates by researching the subject matter, gathering relevant data, and constructing persuasive arguments.

Shapiro is known for his confident and assertive demeanor during debates. He is not afraid to challenge opposing views and presenting his own perspective.

Shapiro actively seeks out debate opportunities and is open to engaging with individuals who hold opposing views. His willingness to participate in discussions and defend his ideas contributes to his reputation as a debater.

You'd be more accurate if you stated that you have trouble following Shaprio's debate style as it is quite clear that many people recognize him as a well spoken and worthy debate opponent. While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, that opinion is not commonly recognized, as many people seek debates with him.

Clearly, in an echo chamber of leftys and libs, my opinion on Shapiro's debate style will not be recognized as the general consensus. However, it's best to keep a perspective that is open minded when listening to opinions with which you might disagree, instead of just attempting to nullify everything that is said simply because you dislike a particular person.

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago
[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Black Lives Matter, too. Who could be against this? And Ben Shapiro has terrible opinions about minorities and the LGBT community. He is not a good person. And he is not quick witted.

[–] Unhappily_Coerced@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Black Lives Matter, too. Who could be against this?

All lives should be treated as equals. "Social equity" is not equality. Since when is charity dignifying for the recipient?

Ben Shapiro has terrible opinions about minorities and the LGBT

Shapiro has stated multiple times that he would rather a child have two gay parents over being an orphan. I won't deny that some of his takes are a bit on the theocratic side. But he isn't theocratic, he recognizes that while his religious beliefs do influence his perspectives, not everyone should be coerced to live the way which he chooses to live.

He is not a good person

Clearly, in an echo chamber of leftys and libs, my opinion on Shapiro will not be recognized as the general consensus. However, it's best to keep a perspective that is open minded when listening to opinions with which you might disagree, instead of just attempting to nullify everything that is said simply because you dislike a particular person.

And he is not quick witted.

It is quite clear that many people recognize him as a well spoken and worthy debate opponent. While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, that opinion is not commonly recognized, as many people seek debates with him.

[–] lowdownfool@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Have to laugh at "libs go after". Nice try but libs don't do anything.